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Old 09-23-2024, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
Is this a deal breaker? Seems like it would take up all the room in the overhead for the other people in that row.
Yes it's a deal breaker. Inter IIntended ops have to move surfboards. If you can't do it, passengers will go find an airline that can.

And bin = cargo bin under the airplane. Not overhead bin in the cabin.
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Old 09-23-2024, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
Yes it's a deal breaker
Lemme stop ya right there. If it doesn't make money, Alaskan WILL cut it, surf boards be damned.
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Old 09-23-2024, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
Yes it's a deal breaker. Inter IIntended ops have to move surfboards. If you can't do it, passengers will go find an airline that can.

And bin = cargo bin under the airplane. Not overhead bin in the cabin.
Ah ok, that makes more sense. Sounds like 737-8s (and maybe 7s) inter-island it is then!
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Old 09-23-2024, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TTail
Last I checked, you can't get a 12 foot surfboard into the bin on a E195.
who checks a 12ft board? Unless your going to a loggers convention or something
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Old 09-23-2024, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Disappointment
Lemme stop ya right there. If it doesn't make money, Alaskan WILL cut it, surf boards be damned.
DOT says nah-ah
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Old 09-24-2024, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
DOT says nah-ah
I doubt that DOT specified they have to accomodate longboards as gate check or even over-size luggage.

Although like I said before, they are accustomed to hauling odd cargo up around the arctic circle, so I wouldn't be surprised if they figured something out.
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Old 09-24-2024, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I doubt that DOT specified they have to accomodate longboards as gate check or even over-size luggage.

Although like I said before, they are accustomed to hauling odd cargo up around the arctic circle, so I wouldn't be surprised if they figured something out.
I think the intent of the post is that surfboards are a pretty common thing as checked baggage for interisland travel. If the airplane can’t accommodate the oversized surfboard then a lot of pax will fly on other airlines (Southwest). I would agree that switching to regional jets isn’t a good option for many reasons. One of them being the cargo space requirements (we fly a lot of cargo on our pax planes). Some variation of a 737 is probably going to be the replacement once the 717 goes to the big desert in the sky.
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Old 09-24-2024, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DenainaPilot
Is this a deal breaker? Seems like it would take up all the room in the overhead for the other people in that row.
I think he meant cargo bin, not overhead bin. Nobody is bringing 12 foot surfboards into the overhead on the 717 lol.
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Old 09-24-2024, 09:21 AM
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Word on the street is that the LEAP engines need to be cold-soaked for operational longevity (I'm not an engineer, I'm just repeating what I've heard), and the Embraers are kind of in the same category. I know there are some straight wing 900s available. They would actually work pretty well, although you guys will hate the comm radios.

Edit: And a 9' longboard would fit easily in the cargo pits.
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Old 09-24-2024, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
I think the intent of the post is that surfboards are a pretty common thing as checked baggage for interisland travel. If the airplane can’t accommodate the oversized surfboard then a lot of pax will fly on other airlines (Southwest). I would agree that switching to regional jets isn’t a good option for many reasons. One of them being the cargo space requirements (we fly a lot of cargo on our pax planes). Some variation of a 737 is probably going to be the replacement once the 717 goes to the big desert in the sky.
Cargo is a very valid reason to not fly RJ's. Compared to NB's, they have almost no cargo capacity, other than checked bags.

So given that I'd guess 717's linger until MAX7's are available. Since AS is mandated to retain inter-island service, they'll probably want to make money at it.

Maybe MAX8's, but AS seems to have an inside track on 737 deliveries so I'm sure they can convert orders between 8 and 7, or maybe even adopt delivery slots abandonded by other carriers (pretty sure that's already happened recently).
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