Hawaiian Hiring FOs
09-20-2024, 11:49 PM
#641
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No one knows for sure, but I don’t see the 717 going away before the end of the decade (and the DOT restriction ending).
09-21-2024, 05:50 AM
#642
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Having flow Embraers, Airbus, and looking at 737s, I'd be the first to try to get back to an Embraer operated by a mainline carrier.
09-21-2024, 12:02 PM
#643
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? QX already as Embraers, seems like they could spool a program up pretty quick.
09-21-2024, 01:45 PM
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MAX 7 would not be a separate fleet, almost all overhead would be common to the 8/9. Might be worth owning some 7's to slightly improve inter-island economics relative to the 8. They'll crunch the numbers and decide based on that. 717's will conveniently last long enough for the 7 to get certified and for decisions to be made.
09-21-2024, 01:50 PM
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Whether it's 195 or Max 7 depends on detailed number crunching, TBD.
Max 7 has the added advantage of one less fleet type, relative to 717.
I tend to suspect one of those two, dedicated to inter-island, as opposed to flowing ETOPS MAX 9 into the inter-island role between ocean crossings. That's a big plane, plus the ETOPS overhead.
09-21-2024, 02:12 PM
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Yes 195 could easily replace 717, it's a wash on number of fleets, plus they already have the experience to leverage on the horizon side.
Whether it's 195 or Max 7 depends on detailed number crunching, TBD.
Max 7 has the added advantage of one less fleet type, relative to 717.
I tend to suspect one of those two, dedicated to inter-island, as opposed to flowing ETOPS MAX 9 into the inter-island role between ocean crossings. That's a big plane, plus the ETOPS overhead.
Whether it's 195 or Max 7 depends on detailed number crunching, TBD.
Max 7 has the added advantage of one less fleet type, relative to 717.
I tend to suspect one of those two, dedicated to inter-island, as opposed to flowing ETOPS MAX 9 into the inter-island role between ocean crossings. That's a big plane, plus the ETOPS overhead.
09-22-2024, 09:28 PM
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Yes 195 could easily replace 717, it's a wash on number of fleets, plus they already have the experience to leverage on the horizon side.
Whether it's 195 or Max 7 depends on detailed number crunching, TBD.
Max 7 has the added advantage of one less fleet type, relative to 717.
I tend to suspect one of those two, dedicated to inter-island, as opposed to flowing ETOPS MAX 9 into the inter-island role between ocean crossings. That's a big plane, plus the ETOPS overhead.
Whether it's 195 or Max 7 depends on detailed number crunching, TBD.
Max 7 has the added advantage of one less fleet type, relative to 717.
I tend to suspect one of those two, dedicated to inter-island, as opposed to flowing ETOPS MAX 9 into the inter-island role between ocean crossings. That's a big plane, plus the ETOPS overhead.
09-23-2024, 07:42 AM
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