tallpilot

Atlas is 121 supplemental. It is not really clear if Hawaiian will operate cargo flights under 117 or not. FedEx and UPS certainly do not.

Neosporin

These aircraft are being configured without rest facilities or bunks. Yes there will be standard Jumpseats like FedEx’s, they could be like their MD11s or A300s or in the flight deck like the 767, no one knows yet. These flights will be conducted within the lower 48 and a possible leg to Hawaii. There is no talk of international flights. Amazon for our situation is North America (US) only.
There will be no need to augment the flights. We will be operating closer to ATI ops.

Neosporin

It is written and agreed upon that we will fly under 117.

Hawaii808

from what I understand Amazon is leaning towards having bunks as they are easier to put in during the cargo conversion than to retrofit later. Not that Hawaiian will need them for the planned initial route structure, but for possible future routes.

it will be under 117 rules. CVG will be the initial base. There will be gateway cities with long call reserve. If the pairing does not start in CVG the company will positive space you from your gateway city to where the aircraft is. If the last leg is not in CVG you will be positive spaces to you gateway city at the end of the pairing. If the pairing starts/ends in CVG you are on your own getting to and from your base. There’s a lot of unknowns as Amazon hasn’t given Hawaiian any sort of flying schedule. It will be domestic and hawaii to start with. The vacancy bid for the initial cadre closes on Jan 3rd. With expected start of service sept./Oct. The initial 787 cadre was also on the same vacancy bid.

dera

Atlas hardly ever does 121 supplemental.

Neosporin

I stand corrected, there are heavy rumors now of international, another vacancy bid coming out within this month.

blackbox348

At HA? I haven’t heard this…although Amazon in general does seem to have some sort of big plan for Hawaii.

Neosporin

It’s just rumor in this massive confusion and uncertainty of what we’re gonna really do as far as flying. I heard the city of Santiago in this rumor conversation.
We’ll see tomorrow or the next day.

Nemack85

Quick question , I sent my app on mid October 2022, got a email about they were reviewing my app mid November and than I haven’t heard, should I take it a ma a soft TBNT?

VintageBaron

Same here! Got email late Nov and haven’t heard since…