Hiring 2022
02-02-2023, 12:08 PM
#732
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Position: A330 FO
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1. Are they hiring separately for the 330F yet or is it get hired and plane will be based on last 4 of social?
2. I would assume they would have short call reserve out of CVG since it is Amazon's hub. Does that mean if you Iive in a gateway and get awarded reserve you would need a place in CVG?
3. Does it seem like a lot of pilots already on the seniority list want it?
02-02-2023, 12:41 PM
#733
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I have a few follow on questions:
Staffed for 4 airplanes... All 28 Captains positions were easily filled, little more than half of the FO positions filled.
1. Are they hiring separately for the 330F yet or is it get hired and plane will be based on last 4 of social?
2. I would assume they would have short call reserve out of CVG since it is Amazon's hub. Does that mean if you Iive in a gateway and get awarded reserve you would need a place in CVG?
3. Does it seem like a lot of pilots already on the seniority list want it?
Staffed for 4 airplanes... All 28 Captains positions were easily filled, little more than half of the FO positions filled.
1. Are they hiring separately for the 330F yet or is it get hired and plane will be based on last 4 of social?
2. I would assume they would have short call reserve out of CVG since it is Amazon's hub. Does that mean if you Iive in a gateway and get awarded reserve you would need a place in CVG?
3. Does it seem like a lot of pilots already on the seniority list want it?
*1) No official hiring specifically for CVG yet on their website. There are several new hire FO's on the CVG list. Looks like it is being offered in class?
*2) There is a 12 hr callout to your gateway, or a 20hr callout to get to CVG.. As a reserve, while in CVG you can get put on airport reserve (or payed hotel.) Basically preflight the a/c then either sit in the facility or get the payed hotel room with a 15 minute downstairs time. Some pairings may have reserve built into the pairing. I think that gets you a company paid hotel?
*3) Captains, atleast enough to fill a large chunk of the 10 a/c spots. For FO's it looks like they'll need to hire 50+ over '23/'24. Anybody on the list for cargo now will be sitting really good for future seniority.
02-02-2023, 01:00 PM
#734
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: outside
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I have a few follow on questions:
1. Are they hiring separately for the 330F yet or is it get hired and plane will be based on last 4 of social?
2. I would assume they would have short call reserve out of CVG since it is Amazon's hub. Does that mean if you Iive in a gateway and get awarded reserve you would need a place in CVG?
3. Does it seem like a lot of pilots already on the seniority list want it?
1. Are they hiring separately for the 330F yet or is it get hired and plane will be based on last 4 of social?
2. I would assume they would have short call reserve out of CVG since it is Amazon's hub. Does that mean if you Iive in a gateway and get awarded reserve you would need a place in CVG?
3. Does it seem like a lot of pilots already on the seniority list want it?
1. they don’t know, I don’t think anyone has heard how they will do. Seniority is based on last 4.
2. there is no short call on the fright side. Only long cal, reserve. Reserve periods will be within your “Freight Flight Grouping”. Either 4 days or 6 days or more.
3. so far 28 seats, Ca and Fo each, were awarded. The Captain seat went senior, more than people thought in general. FO seats were half filled. Bottom 6 of 16 look to be new hires that bid it.
02-02-2023, 01:10 PM
#735
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Yes, true, it’s holding right around 5.5 months from an initial April class, two were awarded it in an August 25th Vacancy, but there’s no rhyme or reason. People either really want it or not. Upgrades going junior are inevitable, it’s industry standard now. For most upgrading on it are pilots that are frozen for 24 months anyway, so why not upgrade. The TA comment and trip details don’t really sway people to not want it. Will pilots bid for it knowing there is a quick upgrade, possibly, it depends for many reasons, but to each their own.
02-03-2023, 05:35 PM
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Yes, true, it’s holding right around 5.5 months from an initial April class, two were awarded it in an August 25th Vacancy, but there’s no rhyme or reason. People either really want it or not. Upgrades going junior are inevitable, it’s industry standard now. For most upgrading on it are pilots that are frozen for 24 months anyway, so why not upgrade. The TA comment and trip details don’t really sway people to not want it. Will pilots bid for it knowing there is a quick upgrade, possibly, it depends for many reasons, but to each their own.
02-03-2023, 06:01 PM
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The published training dates in the vacancy award are not remotely accurate. They are listed in seniority order but many of the senior pilots will bypass training and I see a few that are already/currently flying the 717 and don’t require training. The junior 717 CA’s will be trained well before 15 months.
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02-03-2023, 06:13 PM
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The published training dates in the vacancy award are not remotely accurate. They are listed in seniority order but many of the senior pilots will bypass training and I see a few that are already/currently flying the 717 and don’t require training. The junior 717 CA’s will be trained well before 15 months.
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