Hiring 2022
03-21-2022, 03:14 PM
#61
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 6
Hello! Always been a reader, but never a writer to these forums. Over the past few years I am been contemplating throwing an application into Hawaiian. I just noticed the application for First Officers has reopened again and had a few questions for those who work there. Thanks in advance!
1.) I saw the pay increased for 1st year. Are they thinking about also doing hotels for initial new hire? When does Health Insurance start and is it good?
probably not hotels. the only reason for the first year pay increase is because I’m sure the applications went down to unprecedented levels meaning not many applied.
2.) Is there a choice for aircraft in initial or is it pretty much 717 out of the gate?
classes can be for whatever the need is. New hires have been getting everything. 330,321 and 717. Majority are between 717 and 321
3.) What are the schedules like for each fleet and is the QoL okay? Hoping for multi-day trips, versus turns as a junior FO. How are layovers and do you find them often to be shorter, or is there a mix between short and long?
330 has Mix of 2/3 day trips with 20% being 4-5 day, also random charter flights that go all over for 6 days. 321 is mostly 2 days, maybe has 3 day trips. All trips are. One leg out of Hawaii, one back to Hawaii. Like it’s being said 321 is mostly outer island. 330 is mostly HNL. 717 day trips are senior, but now have two day trips and crews don’t like the overnights (only two day) on outer islands usually so it’s junior.
4.) How happy are the employees and flight crews? Does Hawaiian Airlines treat their employees well? I've flown on you all plenty of times and have had great experiences, but my perspective is only outside looking in.
we are the happiest bunch ever bro. Hawaiian treats us wonderful it’s all rainbows all the time.
5.) What are min days off, per month?
12
6.) What are reserve times looking like?
rsv gets worked every day except maybe 330
7.) Upgrade times?
330 -8-9 years
321 6 years
717- 2-3 years
but I’d subtract a year off of both for the hiring needs in the next year.
Thank you all so much! I really appreciate your time! Just looking to find my home. I've always thought Hawaii was that place and have been soul searching these last few months. Just want to make sure this would be a career fit before applying
1.) I saw the pay increased for 1st year. Are they thinking about also doing hotels for initial new hire? When does Health Insurance start and is it good?
probably not hotels. the only reason for the first year pay increase is because I’m sure the applications went down to unprecedented levels meaning not many applied.
2.) Is there a choice for aircraft in initial or is it pretty much 717 out of the gate?
classes can be for whatever the need is. New hires have been getting everything. 330,321 and 717. Majority are between 717 and 321
3.) What are the schedules like for each fleet and is the QoL okay? Hoping for multi-day trips, versus turns as a junior FO. How are layovers and do you find them often to be shorter, or is there a mix between short and long?
330 has Mix of 2/3 day trips with 20% being 4-5 day, also random charter flights that go all over for 6 days. 321 is mostly 2 days, maybe has 3 day trips. All trips are. One leg out of Hawaii, one back to Hawaii. Like it’s being said 321 is mostly outer island. 330 is mostly HNL. 717 day trips are senior, but now have two day trips and crews don’t like the overnights (only two day) on outer islands usually so it’s junior.
4.) How happy are the employees and flight crews? Does Hawaiian Airlines treat their employees well? I've flown on you all plenty of times and have had great experiences, but my perspective is only outside looking in.
we are the happiest bunch ever bro. Hawaiian treats us wonderful it’s all rainbows all the time.
5.) What are min days off, per month?
12
6.) What are reserve times looking like?
rsv gets worked every day except maybe 330
7.) Upgrade times?
330 -8-9 years
321 6 years
717- 2-3 years
but I’d subtract a year off of both for the hiring needs in the next year.
Thank you all so much! I really appreciate your time! Just looking to find my home. I've always thought Hawaii was that place and have been soul searching these last few months. Just want to make sure this would be a career fit before applying
03-21-2022, 05:36 PM
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: CL65 El Capitano
Posts: 393
It really depends on what you're looking for. If you are out there to make a lot of money and want to live on the mainland, probably not the best choice. If you want to live in Hawaii and have a schedule that you can keep pretty consistent month to month and make roughly 10% less than your peers, it's not too shabby. Really comes down to if you want to live in Hawaii and not commute.
03-23-2022, 11:00 AM
#67
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 85
No hotel provided for training in domicile. I believe the $10,000 signing bonus is supposed to provide funds to cover moving/living expenses initially. At least 2 of the fleets are currently using some SIM slots outside of HNL.
Last edited by Southbay; 03-23-2022 at 11:14 AM.
03-23-2022, 03:31 PM
#69
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 32
They love to pretend commuters don’t exist even though 1/3 of the airline commutes. We didn’t even have a commuter policy until last year. With a Mx base and a FA base in SoCal, they’re running out of reasons not to have a mainland pilot base. Lodging is probably #1.
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