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Old 09-20-2022, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nick89
Are they hiring so many people because of attrition?
They are hiring for the “training cycle”, and to “adequately staff” the airline…which somehow accounts to 24/month for the next 2-3 years. Only 2-3 Dreamliners flying by the end of 2024…
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We’ll easily need 500+ pilots for the 10 78s alone. Including any more flying in the 330s once the 78 arrives seems reasonable to hire as we are for the foreseeable future. We haven’t filled the recent vacancies that have been awarded.
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We’ll easily need 500+ pilots for the 10 78s alone. Including any more flying in the 330s once the 78 arrives seems reasonable to hire as we are for the foreseeable future. We haven’t filled the recent vacancies that have been awarded.
We staff at 50/aircraft?
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Old 09-20-2022, 11:51 PM
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We staff at 50/aircraft?
12-14 p/plane isn't unusual for wide body flying, add in a long haul flight to London with a fourth crew, 117 rest. It's possible.
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Also sounds like the 787s will be growth, and not just a 330 replacement in the near future. Hopefully they exercise the 10 more options for the 787 too.

Wish we could get more 321s now as they want to expand west coast flying, but looks like they're holding out to see how the XLR performs.
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Originally Posted by Poopchute701
Also sounds like the 787s will be growth, and not just a 330 replacement in the near future. Hopefully they exercise the 10 more options for the 787 too.

Wish we could get more 321s now as they want to expand west coast flying, but looks like they're holding out to see how the XLR performs.
All of that will help them put the right plane in the right market and benefit during seasonal routes with the best airframe. Hopefully!
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
They are hiring for the “training cycle”, and to “adequately staff” the airline…which somehow accounts to 24/month for the next 2-3 years. Only 2-3 Dreamliners flying by the end of 2024…

This^^^^^^

Hawaiian is the most conservative (not politically) place I've ever worked. There is no way we are incurring all the training and employee costs 2-5 yrs before the planes show up. Nearly doubling the pilot group while losing $40+ Billion a quarter???


The 4th floor is retarded, but not that retarded....Hopefully
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Originally Posted by Neosporin
We’ll easily need 500+ pilots for the 10 78s alone. Including any more flying in the 330s once the 78 arrives seems reasonable to hire as we are for the foreseeable future. We haven’t filled the recent vacancies that have been awarded.

This looks like Biden math
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What is seniority (for equip bidding)based off of? Age?
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What is seniority (for equip bidding)based off of? Age?
last four of your social. Lowest number is most senior. 0001 is senior to 9999.
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