Hiring 2022
09-16-2022, 08:53 PM
#501
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 85
For October: Most junior 717CA got a line, and reserve went senior on the 717FO side, with the bottom 9 pilots as line holders.
Congrats to the ladies and gents that got awarded CA on the latest vacancy. Quite a few were hired this year.
Get hired into a wide body or be a narrow body captain in 5 months. What a time to be an airline pilot!
Congrats to the ladies and gents that got awarded CA on the latest vacancy. Quite a few were hired this year.
Get hired into a wide body or be a narrow body captain in 5 months. What a time to be an airline pilot!
09-18-2022, 12:59 PM
#502
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,224
For October: Most junior 717CA got a line, and reserve went senior on the 717FO side, with the bottom 9 pilots as line holders.
Congrats to the ladies and gents that got awarded CA on the latest vacancy. Quite a few were hired this year.
Get hired into a wide body or be a narrow body captain in 5 months. What a time to be an airline pilot!
Congrats to the ladies and gents that got awarded CA on the latest vacancy. Quite a few were hired this year.
Get hired into a wide body or be a narrow body captain in 5 months. What a time to be an airline pilot!
09-20-2022, 10:42 AM
#503
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 225
Better pay and work rules for ALL OF US. We are our own worst enemy when we carve ourselves into groups. Yeah, that's the way we've always done it... Where have I heard that? We are ONE. Now, make 'em pay. With the pilot shortage, there has never been a better time. Vote NO on anything that does not bring us to a FULL legacy airline contract.
09-20-2022, 12:23 PM
#504
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,224
We need stop calling them 717 pilots because that plane won't be around much longer. You either are a HAL pilot or not. Drop the sentimental emotional attachment to the DC9/717 because it is at it's sunset. Trust me. Our largest inter-island competitor is flying shiny, new, larger jets with ample overhead bin space and charging less. The writing is on the wall. People can SAY what they want, the market will drive the replacement for the 717 sooner rather than later. It's business.
Better pay and work rules for ALL OF US. We are our own worst enemy when we carve ourselves into groups. Yeah, that's the way we've always done it... Where have I heard that? We are ONE. Now, make 'em pay. With the pilot shortage, there has never been a better time. Vote NO on anything that does not bring us to a FULL legacy airline contract.
Better pay and work rules for ALL OF US. We are our own worst enemy when we carve ourselves into groups. Yeah, that's the way we've always done it... Where have I heard that? We are ONE. Now, make 'em pay. With the pilot shortage, there has never been a better time. Vote NO on anything that does not bring us to a FULL legacy airline contract.
Last edited by PineappleXpres; 09-20-2022 at 12:58 PM.
09-20-2022, 01:57 PM
#505
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 225
Equal protection, yes. Special subsidies, no. "Special" deals are why our contract was so sub-par for so long. We are a legacy carrier and need to have a legacy contract that has pay and work rules like a legacy. A 717 pilot should not be making the same as a 787/330 pilot. Maybe close to a 321 pilot, but not more. THAT is where seniority comes in. If you want 330/787 pay... Bid the 787/330.
09-20-2022, 02:35 PM
#507
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,224
Hourly pay is based on plane size. That's why ETOPS pays more. The planes are larger. That is how it works. Bigger planes command bigger pay. Now if you want to add a rig, that's doable. More pay for less work. Our inter island people work harder than the average regional pilot. THAT is what should be fixed. We're a Legacy/Major. 6-9 legs a day? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Even the regionals have their daily legs capped.
Equal protection, yes. Special subsidies, no. "Special" deals are why our contract was so sub-par for so long. We are a legacy carrier and need to have a legacy contract that has pay and work rules like a legacy. A 717 pilot should not be making the same as a 787/330 pilot. Maybe close to a 321 pilot, but not more. THAT is where seniority comes in. If you want 330/787 pay... Bid the 787/330.
Equal protection, yes. Special subsidies, no. "Special" deals are why our contract was so sub-par for so long. We are a legacy carrier and need to have a legacy contract that has pay and work rules like a legacy. A 717 pilot should not be making the same as a 787/330 pilot. Maybe close to a 321 pilot, but not more. THAT is where seniority comes in. If you want 330/787 pay... Bid the 787/330.
[MENTION=42007]gold[/MENTION]balm, yes, welcome to the new class!
09-20-2022, 08:55 PM
#508
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Position: 000
Posts: 22
What is the attrition like, is all this hiring for the future or to cover retirements etc?
I received a cjo but need to get some ducks in a row before joining, starting to get nervous that there won’t be any classes left haha
I received a cjo but need to get some ducks in a row before joining, starting to get nervous that there won’t be any classes left haha
09-20-2022, 10:36 PM
#510
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Sleeping
Posts: 1,047
we are being told the old staffing model we had had us understaffed on every seat/plane, so the hiring is to bring them up to normal levels. There is a new pilot planner and they are telling us it’s in anticipation for 787 deliveries.
But to answer your question attrition is quite low, like 5-10 maybe this last year? I could be off by some numbers but it’s not much.
they could also be hiring just because it seems like the qualified pool is drying up and better to have pilots on property now than have to increase the bonus even more.
Some recently hired have had no pic jet time and no degree and some less than a year at a regional which to me is nuts.
But to answer your question attrition is quite low, like 5-10 maybe this last year? I could be off by some numbers but it’s not much.
they could also be hiring just because it seems like the qualified pool is drying up and better to have pilots on property now than have to increase the bonus even more.
Some recently hired have had no pic jet time and no degree and some less than a year at a regional which to me is nuts.
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