Hawaiian 5O

Patience Grasshopper(s).

Back in the hiring boom of 2009-2014, it wasn't uncommon to hear of non "native" and/or non internal rec people waiting two to three YEARS for the FIRST call. Hang in there. As others have said, if you meet the competitive requirements you should get the call. Eventually.

RJSAviator76

2-3 years these days means captain at UAL, DAL, AA, FedEx… Why anyone would wait for ANY airline is beyond me.

Hawaiian 5O

Because we have a Hawaii base and anyone can hold it.

Neosporin

Who’s got the scoop on the class today? Numbers, drop…etc?

Poopchute701

All I know is class of 22 to 24 planned. As far as how many showed up, I'm hoping atleast half.

ReverseZ

Any thoughts on picking an aircraft?
I’ve heard the 321 trips are really easy - 5 hour flight, 10-12 in a hotel, and 5 hours back and that’s it but the early AM wakeups on the mainland can be brutal.

How long to hold a line on the 330 vs 321?

330 best for trying to get LAS overnights?

One more commutable than the other?

Thanks all.

Poopchute701

Majority of all trips on 321 are 2 day trips. The junior ones will have DH's on both ends to neighbor islands, while the senior ones will be direct from HNL. All have early show times in morning except a few in the mid morning.

It will be quicker to hold a line on 321, as they are short staffed on pilots. 330 side could be a year or so is my guess. 330 will be the easiest for LAS overnights as that's the most junior trips.

Depends where you are commuting from.

Neosporin

Just in, 22 showed up. Lots of Skywest and Aloha/NAC.

SD3FR8DOG

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Hawaiian 5O

85% or MORE of all trips on 321 are 2-day trips. 90% of those will have DH's on both ends to neighbor islands, while the SUPER senior ones will be direct from HNL. All have early show times in morning except a few in the mid morning. Brutal wake-ups on the west coast. Most have less than 11 hour (10.25-10.50) airplane to airplane overnights giving you just a little over NINE HOURS in the hotel. Personally, this is why I went back to the 330. The back to back double-deadhead minimum rest overnights are more tiring than the red-eye Asia stuff. Then there's the French PF/PM thing on the 321.

The 717 trips now are more work than ANY of the regional flying that I ever did. I wouldn't be surprised if 717 CA goes to less than a year upgrade at some point.

The 330 is a wild card. It's OK now... If the Asia-Pac part of the world ever starts taking it's sanity pills and opens up again, the wide body will be the place to be. Hands down, no comparison. Awesome flying.