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Old 04-17-2022, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyChicken127
Looking for advice on how to pursue opportunities to give myself the best chance at getting hired with Hawaiian ASAP.

Around 350TT now having been hired flying a 135 operation right seat multi engine turbine at 300 hours. We fly primarily VFR. 700-800 hours per year is very likely in my current position. I will also have to opportunity to fly night, icing, IFR conditions for 8 weeks during the winter out of DEN.

I have been told at 700 hours, I will be given the opportunity to swap over and fly Caravan VFR only, but as PIC. This will not have much change on the rate of time building I would receive.

At ~800ish hours, I may be given an opportunity to fly right seat in an E145 and fly a LOT more IFR conditions, building 500 hours per year.

My concern with Hawaiian until recently was the poverty wages for first year FO, but I won't have to save as many acorns for the cold first year FO winter pay with the new pay schedule released.

Until other opportunities come up, these are the forks in the road I am anticipating. Whatever will get me into the hot seat for a successful interview with Hawaiian earliest. Is the current 1500TT requirement realistic for someone not military? 1200 or so of it will be turbine, and likely multi engine turbine.

Will it be beneficial for me to get my ATP cert on my own? I'd rather not rely on an employer to provide one for me along with a contract...

Thanks!
Hi, I just interviewed less than a month ago. After talking with the management hiring guys, you will not be hired without an ATP and at least 2000 hours. In fact the way the system is, they won't even see your application without those. They heavily favor turbine PIC, just like everybody else so get in the left seat as soon as you can. One of them mentioned they like to hire guys from Skywest for what it's worth. Skywest will provide you with an ATP. Of course any of this could change by the time you have the numbers. Good luck.
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Old 04-18-2022, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pompadour
Hi, I just interviewed less than a month ago. After talking with the management hiring guys, you will not be hired without an ATP and at least 2000 hours. In fact the way the system is, they won't even see your application without those. They heavily favor turbine PIC, just like everybody else so get in the left seat as soon as you can. One of them mentioned they like to hire guys from Skywest for what it's worth. Skywest will provide you with an ATP. Of course any of this could change by the time you have the numbers. Good luck.
Thanks for the valuable information!
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Old 04-18-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyChicken127
Looking for advice on how to pursue opportunities to give myself the best chance at getting hired with Hawaiian ASAP.

Around 350TT now having been hired flying a 135 operation right seat multi engine turbine at 300 hours. We fly primarily VFR. 700-800 hours per year is very likely in my current position. I will also have to opportunity to fly night, icing, IFR conditions for 8 weeks during the winter out of DEN.

I have been told at 700 hours, I will be given the opportunity to swap over and fly Caravan VFR only, but as PIC. This will not have much change on the rate of time building I would receive.

At ~800ish hours, I may be given an opportunity to fly right seat in an E145 and fly a LOT more IFR conditions, building 500 hours per year.

My concern with Hawaiian until recently was the poverty wages for first year FO, but I won't have to save as many acorns for the cold first year FO winter pay with the new pay schedule released.

Until other opportunities come up, these are the forks in the road I am anticipating. Whatever will get me into the hot seat for a successful interview with Hawaiian earliest. Is the current 1500TT requirement realistic for someone not military? 1200 or so of it will be turbine, and likely multi engine turbine.

Will it be beneficial for me to get my ATP cert on my own? I'd rather not rely on an employer to provide one for me along with a contract...

Thanks!
I was going to be snarky, based on the fact it took me about 15 years to be competitive. However, it is what it is. Multi engine turbine time. Preferably PIC. ATP definitely, especially if part of 121 training. Pay the contract, get hired a year earlier is a year at top captain pay, not a year at first year FO pay. Apply. Update. Network. Good luck.
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Old 04-18-2022, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyChicken127
Looking for advice on how to pursue opportunities to give myself the best chance at getting hired with Hawaiian ASAP.

Around 350TT now having been hired flying a 135 operation right seat multi engine turbine at 300 hours. We fly primarily VFR. 700-800 hours per year is very likely in my current position. I will also have to opportunity to fly night, icing, IFR conditions for 8 weeks during the winter out of DEN.

I have been told at 700 hours, I will be given the opportunity to swap over and fly Caravan VFR only, but as PIC. This will not have much change on the rate of time building I would receive.

At ~800ish hours, I may be given an opportunity to fly right seat in an E145 and fly a LOT more IFR conditions, building 500 hours per year.

My concern with Hawaiian until recently was the poverty wages for first year FO, but I won't have to save as many acorns for the cold first year FO winter pay with the new pay schedule released.

Until other opportunities come up, these are the forks in the road I am anticipating. Whatever will get me into the hot seat for a successful interview with Hawaiian earliest. Is the current 1500TT requirement realistic for someone not military? 1200 or so of it will be turbine, and likely multi engine turbine.

Will it be beneficial for me to get my ATP cert on my own? I'd rather not rely on an employer to provide one for me along with a contract...

Thanks!
Take it from a guy that spent time at a 135 to get turbine PIC. As soon as you have the time to GO TO A REGIONAL ASAP!! Get the 121 mins as fast as you can and go! They want regional experience and you can get hired straight from Skywest (or other regionals) without any jet PIC. It really is that simple.
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Old 04-18-2022, 05:59 PM
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did anyone hear back after receiving the additional covid information about 2 weeks ago? still impatiently waiting lol
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Old 04-20-2022, 03:41 AM
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I hear there will be a class of 24 in May from the call!?!? I thought Hawaiian had trouble filling classes.
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Old 04-20-2022, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kalungs
did anyone hear back after receiving the additional covid information about 2 weeks ago? still impatiently waiting lol
Still waiting also! Please post if you hear from them.
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Old 04-20-2022, 04:48 PM
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Still waiting also! Please post if you hear from them.
I sent my app in on the 31st and got the Covid info on the 6th for anybody else’s reference and have heard nothing yet. Anybody submit after that and have heard back?
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Old 04-22-2022, 08:26 PM
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Anybody submit after that and have heard back?
Crickets….
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Old 04-24-2022, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cglyn
I sent my app in on the 31st and got the Covid info on the 6th for anybody else’s reference and have heard nothing yet. Anybody submit after that and have heard back?
Same here. I see there a couple of new interview experiences on Aviationinterviews.com interviewed on April 14th and 15th. They say they were called a week after submitting interview. They also say they either had recommendations or someone walk in their resume. I have neither. Hopefully they will run out of recommendation bearing pilots before they run out of positions.
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