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Old 03-13-2022, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Donuthole
I think they know they’ll have to do something, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it in the form of a signing bonus so that when they fill the spots, back to poverty wages it goes.

even upper management has admitted that they have to do something to attract pilots. The rumor mill has been saying first year pay is going up for a few months now, but there hasn’t been an announcement yet. Typical dragging of their feet.
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:37 PM
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even upper management has admitted that they have to do something to attract pilots. The rumor mill has been saying first year pay is going up for a few months now, but there hasn’t been an announcement yet. Typical dragging of their feet.
Yep, and in my opinion they’ll have to do a lot more than that. Money is great but when you can get that at any other major why come to a company with a single domicile. Might have to open a mainland base.
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:46 PM
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The single base rationale is one that Hawaiian management has enjoyed for a long time - due to a single base they do not pay for initial training travel or hotels, recurrent travel and hotels, per diem, and all that stuff that comes from out of domicile training or layovers.

Any time you are in Honolulu, you are cheap
labor - far lower cost than any other airline in the ISA.

Opening a mainland base is a significant increase in cost to the bean counters.
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Old 03-13-2022, 09:31 PM
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The single base rationale is one that Hawaiian management has enjoyed for a long time - due to a single base they do not pay for initial training travel or hotels, recurrent travel and hotels, per diem, and all that stuff that comes from out of domicile training or layovers.

Any time you are in Honolulu, you are cheap
labor - far lower cost than any other airline in the ISA.

Opening a mainland base is a significant increase in cost to the bean counters.
You are absolutely right but when you have an app window open looking to hire 110 and you get 100 apps you need to get creative. Quality of life is big and not everyone wants to live here. Not saying this is the only way to attract pilots but it would be impactful on the recruiting process.
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Old 03-13-2022, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Donuthole
You are absolutely right but when you have an app window open looking to hire 110 and you get 100 apps you need to get creative. Quality of life is big and not everyone wants to live here. Not saying this is the only way to attract pilots but it would be impactful on the recruiting process.
Anybody know the actual number, or anything close?
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Old 03-14-2022, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbox348
Anybody know the actual number, or anything close?
# of spots or applicants? Word on the street is roughly 100 applicants. About 129 spots to be filled. Great time to get on with Hawaiian if this is where you want to be. Looking forward to the attrition!
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Old 03-14-2022, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WacoQCF
The single base rationale is one that Hawaiian management has enjoyed for a long time - due to a single base they do not pay for initial training travel or hotels, recurrent travel and hotels, per diem, and all that stuff that comes from out of domicile training or layovers.

Any time you are in Honolulu, you are cheap
labor - far lower cost than any other airline in the ISA.

Opening a mainland base is a significant increase in cost to the bean counters.
Believe they had some small, short lived, west coast, mainland bases in the early 2000's.
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Old 03-14-2022, 06:14 PM
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Is there a way to update your app once submitted? Window is closed and I’ve still got an FO app on file - would like to update times etc.

Any tips for getting noticed beyond that?
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Old 03-14-2022, 09:25 PM
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There was a Seattle 767 base and an LA base for flight attendants.
Rumors of a Bay area NEO base have been around for awhile, but we lack the equipment and crews to make it happen.
Management has always put cost savings above all. The IPAD's are the third device that has been tried for the paperless cockpit as opposed to the first. Wi-Fi is still not even on the horizon.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:13 PM
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SEA pilot base closed in 2014.

SFO and LAX pilots bases closed in 2002.

There is still a LAX FA base today.

129 new hire positions on the latest bid.
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