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e6bpilot

This times a million. We are all pawns in the chess game being played by our well monied overlords. Let’s all hope for continued prosperity for every single one of us. I am quick to correct any of my fellow company pilots I hear talking about crushing the competition or buying out the incumbent airline. It goes something like this:

Other guy starts talking smack.
Me - “Yeah, that would be great if they went into bankruptcy and all their crews and ground employees got put on the street and we just came in and took over, wouldn’t it?”
Other guy - “uh, well no that’s not what I meant.”

av8tiongeek

^^^^this^^^^

Let's just say an acquisition was considered and was in the works for the past several years. The 787 order was a Kelly move to get the houses in order.

Prim40

What does this mean?
We dont speak code here. Plain language please.

kingairfun

Kind of a stretch don't ya think?

HA orders 10 787 for long haul international routes, utilizes a fleet of 330's, has a deal in the works with JAL for more Japan routes, is about to receive their 16th NEO. And flies 717 interisland.

SWA has all 737's with no intention of diverging from this according to current mgmnt, considers South of the boarder and Jamaica as their international flying, offers no premium cabin or service.

I know HA is only worth 1.5 billion and could be purchased by any airline for less than Delta paid for Comair in 1999, but come on seriously? The only thing that 787's and SWA have in common is Boeing.

fuzzball

It was a wit as dry as a Churchill martini.

WHACKMASTER

Exactly......current senior management is thoroughly entrenched with the “We’re going to conquer the world (just as soon as we figure out how to accept foreign currency) with the B737”.

They can’t even figure that out. I’m not sure they’d know what to do with an airline that flies four different non-B737 fleet types and does true international flying.

And believe me, it’s not like they’d just take the knowledge and expertise of current Hawaiian Airlines folks. No, for certain they’d try to reinvent the wheel like they do with everything.

costalpilot

its one big crap shoot. I turned down a TWA interview when little ole Southern Airways hired me.

a few years later, TWA was out of business.

I retired off the 400.

go figure and good luck.

Hawaiian 5O

That. I’d say that some type of acquisition is all but guaranteed now in the next couple of years. For the above reasons mentioned though, I put good money that it won’t be SWA just because of the fleet type and business model differences. I just hope it’s on good terms while we’re still healthy, not a TWA type deal.

Place your bets. My guesses in order. Not my preference, but my best swag. AA, DAL, ALK, JB, SWA and UAL. UA is last because they have the most overlap from a DOT standpoint.

At this stage, all I hope is that it’s an ALPA carrier so there will at least be a kiss in it for us when it’s over. I’m afraid SWA or AA would try to (will) staple us.

Buckle up, it’s going to be an interesting ride over the next 5-7 years. Might be good, might be bad. All I know is that I’m just along for the ride. Good luck to us all.

CGfalconHerc

Easy guys..dont give up the ship!

SWA came to LGA..BFD. SWA came to DCA..BFD. SWA came to ATL..BFD! Just hang in there..the locals will be loyal..you have a great airline..

Jmho...CG