Another Career Ruined
01-27-2016, 12:01 PM
#61
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Why would they, he isn't charged with anything that implies a danger to air safety to where he should be grounded. Even if he is found guilty of the charge I fail to see why the FAA would revoke his certificates.
Gold smuggling has been a huge issue since forever (see James Bond movie Goldfinger) and into India in particular. Given they found some jewelry with him it is fairly easy to make the assumption of gold in / cash out, which crews to India have been doing since planes have been flying there (and before them boats). The failure to declare funds is probably the tip of the iceberg, will be interesting to see how the situation unfolds.
Gold smuggling has been a huge issue since forever (see James Bond movie Goldfinger) and into India in particular. Given they found some jewelry with him it is fairly easy to make the assumption of gold in / cash out, which crews to India have been doing since planes have been flying there (and before them boats). The failure to declare funds is probably the tip of the iceberg, will be interesting to see how the situation unfolds.
01-27-2016, 01:40 PM
#62
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They now refer to issues as "Security Threats."
I also believe that the TSA is mismanaged and a waste of resources, (but that's for another post).
The FAA might try to use Sec. 61.18 TSA Security Disqualification (as the ATP will more than likely lose his SIDA creds and CBP Global Entry Privileges, if not already suspended).
After 9/11 they take a hard line with credentialed crew members who are suspected of smuggling contraband, (in this case the currency is the contraband).
Here's when the rules were first proposed and the relevant background.
https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...a-certificates
Final Rules
http://www.aopa.org/-/media/Files/AO...final_rule.pdf
01-28-2016, 07:13 PM
#63
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It is not that unreasonable to take a hard line. This guy used GE to smuggle currency. This was almost certainly not the first time, and the only reason he was caught was because the GE kiosks were temporarily offline. He was possibly doing this for third parties. Can he be trusted with KCM?
This is why I am consistently against these "special" programs for large groups, where some animals are created more equal than others, comrade.
They open up large security holes for exploitation, and will be and are exploited.
This is why I am consistently against these "special" programs for large groups, where some animals are created more equal than others, comrade.
They open up large security holes for exploitation, and will be and are exploited.
01-29-2016, 01:00 PM
#64
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It is not that unreasonable to take a hard line. This guy used GE to smuggle currency. This was almost certainly not the first time, and the only reason he was caught was because the GE kiosks were temporarily offline. He was possibly doing this for third parties. Can he be trusted with KCM?
In any case I don't see anything he did though that warrants an emergency revocation or even to be honest certificate action in general which is the FAA's department (not US Customs or TSA).
01-31-2016, 12:31 PM
#65
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Global Entry is US Customs. KCM is TSA. I certainly think he is going to end up losing a lot of stuff (including his freedom). He certainly didn't get caught from how it reads due to Global Entry being down. The process is exactly the same you just skip the line and you still see the same guy at the exit and hand in your declaration. The fact they pulled and scanned his briefcase leads me to believe they were waiting for him, but it will come out in the trail.
Pilot smuggled cash, jewelry through customs, feds say | NJ.com
The problem for Warner, the complaint said, was the Global Entry kiosk computer system was not working Sunday at the airport.
Warner presented his customs declaration to a Customs and Border Patrol agent who checked Warner's carry-on bag. In it, the agent found $195,736 in cash wrapped in a newspaper, the complaint said. He also was carrying 10 rings, four sets of earrings and other jewelry, it said.
Warner presented his customs declaration to a Customs and Border Patrol agent who checked Warner's carry-on bag. In it, the agent found $195,736 in cash wrapped in a newspaper, the complaint said. He also was carrying 10 rings, four sets of earrings and other jewelry, it said.
02-03-2016, 05:54 PM
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This comment and your one above makes me wonder if you really know how Global Entry works or have used it. The only thing it does is let you skip the first line, that's it. You hand in a declaration at the exit which is what he did and got pinched. It wouldn't have made any difference whether Global Entry was up or down.
02-03-2016, 08:01 PM
#67
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It is not that unreasonable to take a hard line. This guy used GE to smuggle currency. This was almost certainly not the first time, and the only reason he was caught was because the GE kiosks were temporarily offline. He was possibly doing this for third parties. Can he be trusted with KCM?
This is why I am consistently against these "special" programs for large groups, where some animals are created more equal than others, comrade. They open up large security holes for exploitation, and will be and are exploited.
This is why I am consistently against these "special" programs for large groups, where some animals are created more equal than others, comrade.
They open up large security holes for exploitation, and will be and are exploited.
02-04-2016, 03:35 AM
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Yes.
A similar special program (odd-even license plate rationing) occurred in California during the 1979 so called oil shortage. Dr's and other privileged folks did not have to participate in this wonderful process. Abused much? Why heavens no.
I guess the privileged are once again all in the eye of the beholder.
A similar special program (odd-even license plate rationing) occurred in California during the 1979 so called oil shortage. Dr's and other privileged folks did not have to participate in this wonderful process. Abused much? Why heavens no.
I guess the privileged are once again all in the eye of the beholder.
12-24-2016, 07:57 PM
#69
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It's a stupid unjust law.
God forbid someone do with their own money what they want. It's like the "crime" of putting your own money in an account not in this country. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are plenty of fools out there that think electing a self-described socialist is a good idea.
God forbid someone do with their own money what they want. It's like the "crime" of putting your own money in an account not in this country. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised there are plenty of fools out there that think electing a self-described socialist is a good idea.
12-25-2016, 04:18 AM
#70
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C’mon, guys.
He’s innocent until proven guilty. Seriously.
In the modern world of the internet, we’ve been given the ability (for better or for worse) to not only learn about events as they unfold but to make a running commentary, sometimes anonymously. I find the “mob mentality” and quick-to-judgment replies about situations like this quite disturbing.
Yes, if the Feds arrested and charged him, they probably have substantial evidence. And he may very well be guilty as charged. But that decision is up to the judicial system to decide AFTER they evaluate all the evidence, not for us to evaluate based on reading one news article.
And then, let’s say he is guilty and convicted. Still, we don’t know what was going on with him in his personal life and how he got himself into this mess. How about a little empathy, people? He’s still a human being, not a “tool” or a “douche”.
At the worst, he sinned by falling victim to extreme greed and arrogance, for which he will pay a severe penalty.
But if I don’t rush to judgment, I can think of several extenuating circumstances that might have led him to this point beyond blind greed. Maybe he was conned into carrying items for someone he trusted. Or maybe he was slowly lured into a larger criminal conspiracy. Maybe he was even blackmailed into cooperating. Maybe he acted out of sheer desperation to a personal financial catastrophe that he was unable to cope with even with a high income – perhaps a spouse or a child with a serious and chronic disease. Maybe he has a serious gambling addiction that he needs help overcoming. Maybe he has some undiagnosed mental illness that is slowly becoming more serious. (And yes, it can happen, even to airline pilots passing a regular physical exam.)
Don’t get me wrong; Regardless of the reason he did it, *IF* he did he and *IF* he did it with full knowledge of what he was doing, he deserves to receive punishment.
My point is that many crimes are not committed by hardened criminals but by ‘normal’ people with good moral values who slowly get twisted off, led astray, and make a series of bad decisions.
I don’t condone bad behavior.
I do condone compassion and understanding for our fellow man, even if they have been human and made mistakes.
I couldn't have said it any better! Very well stated.
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