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Old 01-19-2016, 07:02 AM
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I have an XDs. It's not a bad pistol, and one won't go wrong with the line of XD pistols (or most Springfield Armory products, for that matter). I still remember when the XD pistols were from Croatia, however, before Springfield bought them, and they didn't sell well at all.

My personal carry pistol for a long time was the Sig P239. I have multiples of most of what's available on the market from HK's to Sigs to S&W, Ruger, Springfield, Beretta, etc, in revolvers, and semi-automatic pistols, shotguns, rifles, etc, including a number of 1911's and single action revolvers. I have most of what Glock makes. Of everything I've carried, owned, or shot, Glocks have been what I finally came to use and carry.

It's important to determine what works best for you, whomever you are, and what ever your needs may be. What works for me, or someone else, won't help you. One of the reasons that I have so many firearms is that over a number of years, I bought them to try them, and often bought at least two. For me, firing one at a range with a rental was never adequate, and my preference is to get at least a thousand rounds through a pistol to get to know it a bit better and evaluate it, as well as get a sense of reliability. That may not work for everyone. Much of what's on the market today would make a good choice. They're all mechanical devices subject to failure. Some do better than others.

The single most important criterial is reliability. Far too many select a pistol based on the way it looks, or feels in their hand, or the size; a good looking pistol, or an ergonomic one, or a small one, won't do any good at all if it doesn't function when you need it. Other criteria are weight; a few ounces extra seem like a lot more when you're carrying it all day long. Concealability, capacity, and other aspects are also considerations, but there are always ways to work around those.

For my own use, the one line of pistols that's met all the criteria I want are Glocks. Mine are all configured the same with Trijicon HD orange sights, minus connectors (and spring change), and extended slide stop lever. Everything else is stock, generation 3. I have them in 9mm. .40, .357, .45 acp, and 10mm. I didn't bother with the .380 or .45 GAP as they didn't interest me, and I don't reload for either one.

Once you make your selection, shoot it regularly, and get instruction in using it. Someone mentioned competing; that's not the same as training to fight with a pistol, defensively or otherwise, but it's good all the same and many find it gives an incentive to train a little harder. It's not necessary, and for many, not possible, but most who do, find it a lot of fun.

For the flight suit, consider having a breakaway panel tailored with velcro for on-body carry beneath the flight suit. It works well.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I have an XDs. It's not a bad pistol, and one won't go wrong with the line of XD pistols (or most Springfield Armory products, for that matter). I still remember when the XD pistols were from Croatia, however, before Springfield bought them, and they didn't sell well at all.

My personal carry pistol for a long time was the Sig P239. I have multiples of most of what's available on the market from HK's to Sigs to S&W, Ruger, Springfield, Beretta, etc, in revolvers, and semi-automatic pistols, shotguns, rifles, etc, including a number of 1911's and single action revolvers. I have most of what Glock makes. Of everything I've carried, owned, or shot, Glocks have been what I finally came to use and carry.

It's important to determine what works best for you, whomever you are, and what ever your needs may be. What works for me, or someone else, won't help you. One of the reasons that I have so many firearms is that over a number of years, I bought them to try them, and often bought at least two. For me, firing one at a range with a rental was never adequate, and my preference is to get at least a thousand rounds through a pistol to get to know it a bit better and evaluate it, as well as get a sense of reliability. That may not work for everyone. Much of what's on the market today would make a good choice. They're all mechanical devices subject to failure. Some do better than others.

The single most important criterial is reliability. Far too many select a pistol based on the way it looks, or feels in their hand, or the size; a good looking pistol, or an ergonomic one, or a small one, won't do any good at all if it doesn't function when you need it. Other criteria are weight; a few ounces extra seem like a lot more when you're carrying it all day long. Concealability, capacity, and other aspects are also considerations, but there are always ways to work around those.

For my own use, the one line of pistols that's met all the criteria I want are Glocks. Mine are all configured the same with Trijicon HD orange sights, minus connectors (and spring change), and extended slide stop lever. Everything else is stock, generation 3. I have them in 9mm. .40, .357, .45 acp, and 10mm. I didn't bother with the .380 or .45 GAP as they didn't interest me, and I don't reload for either one.

Once you make your selection, shoot it regularly, and get instruction in using it. Someone mentioned competing; that's not the same as training to fight with a pistol, defensively or otherwise, but it's good all the same and many find it gives an incentive to train a little harder. It's not necessary, and for many, not possible, but most who do, find it a lot of fun.

For the flight suit, consider having a breakaway panel tailored with velcro for on-body carry beneath the flight suit. It works well.
I have a couple Sigs and a Glock… shot 1000 rounds through them and never a failure… quality guns. My problem with the Glocks are they are too big (I have the G27)… problem with Sigs are the weight… even for the P290. For CC the P290s size makes up for the weight… never liked CC with the Glock… too bulky.
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Old 01-19-2016, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
I have a couple Sigs and a Glock… shot 1000 rounds through them and never a failure… quality guns. My problem with the Glocks are they are too big (I have the G27)… problem with Sigs are the weight… even for the P290. For CC the P290s size makes up for the weight… never liked CC with the Glock… too bulky.
The G26/27/33 frame is quite compact. If you need it smaller than that, the G43 is an excellent option. Mine runs 7 round magazines (pearce +1 baseplate), and it's very thin. Inside the waistband tucked under a tee shirt it's difficult to detect. It's also light, and works well with an ankle holster.

The G26/27/33 (same frame, 9mm, .40s&w, or .357 sig) works well in an ankle holster, too.
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke

Once you make your selection, shoot it regularly, and get instruction in using it. Someone mentioned competing; that's not the same as training to fight with a pistol, defensively or otherwise, but it's good all the same and many find it gives an incentive to train a little harder. It's not necessary, and for many, not possible, but most who do, find it a lot of fun.
Since I made that comment would you care to elaborate, I respectfully disagree, but would like to learn why you don't think a pistol competition aimed at "defensive" situations wouldnt be valuable training.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:46 PM
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Since I made that comment would you care to elaborate, I respectfully disagree, but would like to learn why you don't think a pistol competition aimed at "defensive" situations wouldnt be valuable training.
I didn't say that. You'll have to go ask someone who said that.

IDPA and other competitions are not the same thing as a gunfight, and training for a competition is not the same as training for a fight.

It's training for a game. Not the same thing.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:28 AM
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I would avoid the Smith and Wesson's with the safety mechanism. Glock 9mm with a 15 round clip I hear is a good choice. The clip might cost you though.
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Old 01-20-2016, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DustyRoads
I would avoid the Smith and Wesson's with the safety mechanism. Glock 9mm with a 15 round clip I hear is a good choice. The clip might cost you though.
"Clip?"

A magazine for a G19 (15 rounds) is about twenty four bucks. Same as any other Glock mag.
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Old 01-22-2016, 12:18 AM
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I don't own a Glock, as I prefer revolvers. I was relaying information someone gave me about what they use for CC. The original poster might want to consider a small revolver such as a Smith and Wesson .38 special(or .22 magnum), but be aware that Smith and Wesson has for the last few years had a built in safety(on revolvers) that gun purists don't like. The last time I was in a gun store the salesman was explaining that, and he recommended Ruger right now for a revolver. Hope this helps.
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Old 01-24-2016, 07:48 AM
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RadialGal, now that the frenzy has died down, let us know what you end up doing. We all want to know which way you go.
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That may have been one of the most benign and ordered frenzies in the history of mankind.
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