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Old 09-08-2015, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT, WHICH SHE AGREED TO, IS TO SERVE ALCOHOL. She backs out of it, she gets suspended. Same as if a crew member refused to work on their sabbath or religious holiday.
Her condition of employment does not supercede the protections of the 1st Amendment. Happy to burst your bubble.
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The courts have been very clear that it does not violate any 1st Amendment rights to provide something to others even when it is against your beliefs. To not do so, is considered discrimination. Ask all the bakers that have to make cakes for same-sex weddings or the court clerk in Kentucky jail right now over not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples over her religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs 100%, but you are NOT entitled to your job.. especially if you try to impose your beliefs on the people you were hired to serve. just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Her condition of employment does not supercede the protections of the 1st Amendment. Happy to burst your bubble.
You didn't burst anything, Ace.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmith3631
The courts have been very clear that it does not violate any 1st Amendment rights to provide something to others even when it is against your beliefs. To not do so, is considered discrimination. Ask all the bakers that have to make cakes for same-sex weddings or the court clerk in Kentucky jail right now over not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples over her religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs 100%, but you are NOT entitled to your job.. especially if you try to impose your beliefs on the people you were hired to serve. just my 2 cents.

This issue has not been settled. Not even by a long shot. Feel free to believe it has.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
You didn't burst anything, Ace.
Whatever you say, Salmonella.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:23 AM
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Whatever you say, Salmonella.


...and with that VERY witty retort, I'm off to sleep.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:30 AM
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...and with that VERY witty retort, I'm off to sleep.

No one really cares. Even if they rhetorically say they do.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:35 AM
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The First Amendment has nothing to do with protecting your speech or religious rights at work. It only protects those rights from government intrusion ("Congress shall make no law..."). You're at work to do the job as defined by your boss. If you don't like the job description/requirements or you later change your mind, renegotiate or leave. You do not have the right to free speech or religious expression at work without fear of losing your job. Don't think so? Try making a lewd comment to a passenger, or even better, a coworker. If they don't appreciate your advances, your job could be at risk. Same thing with religious convictions. If they conflict with the requirements of the job, tough luck. You don't have a RIGHT to that job.
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The Islamophobia is strong in here.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:41 AM
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Why all the fuss?

Just get another cart donkey if that one doesn't work.
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