Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hangar Talk
Jumpseating checking a firearm on Airways >

Jumpseating checking a firearm on Airways

Search

Notices
Hangar Talk For non-aviation-related discussion and aviation threads that don't belong elsewhere

Jumpseating checking a firearm on Airways

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-16-2015, 05:06 PM
  #1  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 4
Default Jumpseating checking a firearm on Airways

I'm jumpseating tomorrow and was going to check a firearm with airways express and was wondering if 1) anyone has done this or 2) anyone knows if it's the same protocol as if I were a regular PAX
Thanks!
Tobruk is offline  
Old 06-17-2015, 05:47 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,007
Default

There are some things one shouldn't do while jumpseating. This is one.

Don't make it hard for the rest of us that use the JS to move around with out our guns, kids, pets, furniture, surf boards, power tools, etc....
Snarge is offline  
Old 06-17-2015, 07:03 AM
  #3  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,388
Default

Probably less confusing to simply buy a zed.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 06-17-2015, 04:09 PM
  #4  
Airborne bus driver
 
RadialGal's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: my seat smells funny
Posts: 224
Default

I have bought a few guns here in Alaska as gifts for family members, then jumpseated to visit them. I agree with the previous posters, I didn't wish to upset the jumpseat-Gods, so I simply sent them along via a dealer and jumseated my happy gun-less butt along. I never want to be "that gal" who causes my company to loose jump privileges. Just my .02.

RadialGal
RadialGal is offline  
Old 06-22-2015, 06:42 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Airhoss's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Posts: 5,726
Default

I've done it multiple times up to Alaska. There is absolutely no difference at the ticket counter if you are pass riding or jump seating. But if you are worried just buy a pass. If you need to jump seat do so at the gate after your gun is safely checked in. This is not a big deal.
Airhoss is offline  
Old 06-23-2015, 05:49 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: JAFO- First Observer
Posts: 997
Default

Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a federal law on firearm purchases (along with BATF form 4473) which requires that the original purchaser must be the legal owner of said firearm?
PerfInit is offline  
Old 06-23-2015, 06:32 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Airhoss's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Posts: 5,726
Default

Originally Posted by PerfInit
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a federal law on firearm purchases (along with BATF form 4473) which requires that the original purchaser must be the legal owner of said firearm?
Yes and after you buy it you can legally transfer that firearm to anybody you wish as long as that person can legally own a firearm. If your state is run by communists, like Colorado and requires a background check for all transfers then simply go down to a gun store and have one done.

No big deal.
Airhoss is offline  
Old 06-25-2015, 06:45 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 269
Default

Originally Posted by Airhoss
Yes and after you buy it you can legally transfer that firearm to anybody you wish as long as that person can legally own a firearm. If your state is run by communists, like Colorado and requires a background check for all transfers then simply go down to a gun store and have one done.

No big deal.
No, it potentially NOW can be a big deal.

Have you seen this 2013 case;

ABRAMSKI v. UNITED STATES

In the case of Abramski v. United States the Court ruled in effect that the Virginia man; a former police officer purchasing the firearm at a discounted price, was acting as agent for the true buyer-his uncle. By declaring he was the “actual buyer” on the Form 4473, the Virginia man violated straw purchase law, because in effect he was acting as an agent for his uncle who had provided the funds for the purchase.
Abramski v. United StatesAbramski v. United States
NotPart91 is offline  
Old 06-27-2015, 09:46 AM
  #9  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 4
Default

Piece of cake....checked a lower and filled out the form...it was red tagged in case I missed the flight. That was it
Tobruk is offline  
Old 06-27-2015, 12:08 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Airhoss's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
Posts: 5,726
Default

Originally Posted by NotPart91
No, it potentially NOW can be a big deal.

Have you seen this 2013 case;

ABRAMSKI v. UNITED STATES

In the case of Abramski v. United States the Court ruled in effect that the Virginia man; a former police officer purchasing the firearm at a discounted price, was acting as agent for the true buyer-his uncle. By declaring he was the “actual buyer” on the Form 4473, the Virginia man violated straw purchase law, because in effect he was acting as an agent for his uncle who had provided the funds for the purchase.
Abramski v. United StatesAbramski v. United States
So if you are worried about it, take said firearm down to a dealer and transfer it to the recipient via a form 4473.
Airhoss is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frisky Pilot
Regional
20
01-01-2022 05:02 PM
Splanky
Regional
11
09-17-2008 02:52 PM
RedBaron007
Major
3
01-31-2007 09:05 PM
Sir James
Major
0
03-15-2005 08:35 PM
RockBottom
Major
0
03-07-2005 11:04 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices