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Old 06-18-2014, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by brianb
That's why that 1% needs to be neutralized or things will never change for the long term betterment of us all.
The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.
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Old 06-18-2014, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.
Are we? We may be one of many certain 1%'s, but the 1% mentioned was the groups that go running into coffee shops with c-4 strapped to them.

Agreed with the latter.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:59 AM
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It is part of the glue that holds all States together, in fact all States demand a monopoly on violence and subjugation.

We happen to be very good at it, we are capable of extremely violent responses to people who threaten that monopoly.
This is vital to survival of the state and the individual.

None of us like it when that monopoly is threatened.

Like it or not, war, violence and terror are part of what we are-possibly one of the biggest parts.
It pays to be good at it.

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, at times it is easy to sort the bad guy out, other times it may not be so clear cut.
Best to avoid it all if you can, but if you can't it is best to go all in.

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:23 AM
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For some reason, when I woke this morning, this song popped into my head:

Country Joe Mcdonald at Woodstock - YouTube

Must be from all the TV coverage of the Iraq debate (1, 2, 3 what are we fighting for? And the go back in/stay out debate ).

But just change "Viet Nam" to "Iraq", and you'll see not much has changed (other than the hair styles!) since 1969.

You youngsters look closely, you may see your parents in the crowd!

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Old 06-19-2014, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
For some reason, when I woke this morning, this song popped into my head:

Country Joe Mcdonald at Woodstock - YouTube

Must be from all the TV coverage of the Iraq debate (go in/stay out) lately.

But just change "Viet Nam" to "Iraq", and you'll see not much has changed (other than the hair styles!) since 1970.

You youngsters look closely, you may see your parents in the crowd!
Not much has changed in a few thousand years, but we have gotten a lot better at fighting. The dithering hasn't improved much.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle
The funny thing is, all of us in the US on the world stage are the 1%.

Do you now call for your own neutralization?

Long term all of us need to be treated equally, not embroiled in a contest of race, religion, class warfare or any other distraction.
You may think the good ole USA is the 1% of the world but I bet that there are several million folks who live in this country that would disagree with that thought. It seems you and I have a different viewpoint as to who the 1% actually are in this world.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brianb
You may think the good ole USA is the 1% of the world but I bet that there are several million folks who live in this country that would disagree with that thought. It seems you and I have a different viewpoint as to who the 1% actually are in this world.
Ok, could you tell us which group of hairy guys with AKs we are backing and why? The shy sensitive and caring ones or the mean old 1%ers?

Or could it be(gasp!) both groups?

In all of the confusion my scorecard got lost.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:24 AM
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Ok, could you tell us which group of hairy guys with AKs we are backing and why? The shy sensitive and caring ones or the mean old 1%ers?

Or could it be(gasp!) both groups?

In all of the confusion my scorecard got lost.
It would be the guys with a couple of dozen walking beams in their backyard.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:48 AM
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It would be the guys with a couple of dozen walking beams in their backyard.

You got that right, without that one important qualifier nobody gets hugs from uncle, and it doesn't really matter if they have been naughty or nice.
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ISIS background paper....

http://understandingwar.org/sites/de..._Reports_0.pdf
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