Zimmerman is not guilty!!!
07-23-2013, 05:05 PM
#211
alchemist
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(1)I guarantee you he is profiled 30 or 40 times a day.
(2) If it is found out you were suspended from school for burglary and vandalism; guess what you reinforce that profile.
(3)The whole point of a neighborhood watch system is to look for strangers walking around your neighborhood.
(4)Would you recommend neighbor watch programs only allow you to watch your neighbors; if you see a stranger run and hide?
(2) If it is found out you were suspended from school for burglary and vandalism; guess what you reinforce that profile.
(3)The whole point of a neighborhood watch system is to look for strangers walking around your neighborhood.
(4)Would you recommend neighbor watch programs only allow you to watch your neighbors; if you see a stranger run and hide?
1) fair enough but is that the same as the situation i explained with my experiences? I don't think a car salesperson or bartender will ever ask anyone, "empty out your pockets" but i understand your explanation!
2) did GZ know this prior to calling the police and approaching TM?
3) I agree
4) I don't recommend!
Last edited by meeko031; 07-23-2013 at 05:32 PM.
07-23-2013, 05:17 PM
#212
alchemist
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(1)you need to get informed on SYG, it had nothing to do with this case.
(2)Don't look or act like a thug or low life and you will find people treat you better. If you are a big white skinhead with a swastika prison tat on your forehead most people are not going to engage you in friendly chitchat. I think you already know this.
(3)One more thing meek, don't go peeping into peoples windows at night, or during the day for that matter.
(2)Don't look or act like a thug or low life and you will find people treat you better. If you are a big white skinhead with a swastika prison tat on your forehead most people are not going to engage you in friendly chitchat. I think you already know this.
(3)One more thing meek, don't go peeping into peoples windows at night, or during the day for that matter.
(2) I already know this, that's why i decided to attend/graduate college to prevent being generalized as a low life or thug but i guess i just have that look!
(maybe it has something to do with growing up in ny)(3) didn't know this is considered suspicious activity!!!
07-23-2013, 05:30 PM
#213
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my concern is, a gun owner who decides to profile me because I look 'suspicious', (not black, incase you re wondering)the situation could become confrontational, instigate a fight which could lead to the use of lethal force on his part to defend himself and claim stand your ground! sounds far fetched?( I'm sure that's a run-on sentence)
...so how often do you walk into 'ghetto' neighborhoods? have you ever been profiled ? being profiled may not be a big deal for you but for someone like me who is on the right side of the law is more annoying to me now than insulting!!!
enjoy!
...so how often do you walk into 'ghetto' neighborhoods? have you ever been profiled ? being profiled may not be a big deal for you but for someone like me who is on the right side of the law is more annoying to me now than insulting!!!
enjoy!
If you don't want to get shot during a fight, don't fight! It is really that simple.
I have a crashpad in a getto. They think we're police. I've also been in parts of DC where I was the only white person in a grocery store, barber shop, and bar. It felt strange because I am usually in the majority and there I was not. However, I am profiled on a daily basis at work (TSA checkpoint, other crew members "sizing" you up for fit for duty, passengers profiling, cops in the airports etc.etc.).
What people confuse is profiling is a good thing because as humans we do it everyday. What is wrong is PROFILING BASED ON RACIAL HATE. In other words, a white person who is a racist only watching, monitoring, or stopping someone who is black. Profiling based on evidence, experience, or information is not a bad thing.
Zimmerman observed Martin behaving "crazy" in his own words and later described to the police that he was looking into the windows of apartments ... on a rainy night. Seems very suspicious to me.
07-23-2013, 05:38 PM
#214
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I guarantee you he is profiled 30 or 40 times a day. Whenever he gets an E Mail from an advertiser, whenever he walks into a car dealership, if he walks into a bar, whenever he watches his favorite TV show or sporting event. Got a big Tattoo on your face or your a$$ you're profiled. Walking around a neighborhood in the rain looking at houses wearing a hoodie or not you will be profiled. If it is found out you were suspended from school for burglary and vandalism; guess what you reinforce that profile.
The whole point of a neighborhood watch system is to look for strangers walking around your neighborhood. Would you recommend neighbor watch programs only allow you to watch your neighbors; if you see a stranger run and hide?
The whole point of a neighborhood watch system is to look for strangers walking around your neighborhood. Would you recommend neighbor watch programs only allow you to watch your neighbors; if you see a stranger run and hide?
07-23-2013, 05:41 PM
#215
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OPEN SEASON ON PUNKS IN FLORIDA
Have you ever wanted to exercise your constitutionally guaranteed right to pump a lead slug into a real live human being? Ever wanted to really see if you can exercise that CCW privilege and pull your weapon when you need to? Ever wanted to track a live man through an urban jungle like a zombie killer? Ever wanted to be a hero and take out a punk like Clint would?
Well now you can !!
Come to Florida where the "Stand Your Ground" law allows you to go pick a fight in the name of justice and administer the righteous punishment that our wimpy left wing courts are all too afraid to hand out … The death penalty!
C'mon, we all know that the world is WAY too full of punk ass kids who smoke the Mary Jane and skip school. You know, the ones who might shop lift every now and again. Well these losers need to be TAKEN OUT! And who's going to take them out? The bumbling police who have their hands tied by stupid rules and regulations? You know they can't. Somebody has to rid this country of criminals like this and that somebody can be YOU!
Simply run down to your local Walmart and buy one of the two or three things that they sell that isn't made in China - a gun.
Next, choose a likely location to find a target … low rent housing areas, gas stations, malls, and biker bars are just a few of the thousands of target rich environments that we have in Florida.
Then simply go pick a fight. For instance you could find a low life looking biker - no need to make sure that he is a real criminal, after all he has probably done SOMETHING to justify his own death, you know, speeding, dope, porn, unmarried sex - and confront him. Your confrontation need not be complicated, you simply need to follow him on foot or if he's on his bike chase him in your car or better yet, chase him in your car when HE is on foot and then when he turns to confront you, BINGO, you've got him!! Draw. Aim. Squeeze.
Although the law works best when you are smaller than your "opponent", that's not a show stopper.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter how big you are; recent events have shown that even if you have 27 lbs and ten years on your target, you are still OK to kill him.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter where you are; public property is fine (but the fewer witnesses, the better) for killing someone.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter how little training training you have had; Wanna-be cops are fine.
The ONLY thing you need to be sure of is that in the few seconds prior to you killing someone, you have to "fear for your life".
"How do I do that?" you ask?
Simple. Just look around and find a weapon that you can say the bad guy was going to kill you with. This could be something as obvious as a knife or as obtuse as a sidewalk. Really, if you can prove that your biker bully pushed you against a building and you hit your head, THAT'S his weapon - the 7-11 building. Or a phone pole, or a road, or a tree, or a floor, yup, pretty much anything can be called a weapon.
"But won't that hurt?" you ask?
Well, no pain, no gain. It's really best to have a scab to show the authorities no matter how small (and it's cool to show off to the chicks,too!) Remember, it's only for a second or two that you need to let him get the upper hand. Then, BLAMMO! You get to bag your prize!
So' c'mon down to Florida, where there is easy in-car tracking of human game and it's open season on punks! No Limit! No Permit! No Kidding!
WARNING: THIS OPPORTUNITY APPLIES ONLY IF YOU KILL YOUR PUNK . ( Best to brush up at the range, get some good ammo, and be prepared to fire in the kill zone from a close range. Complications may arise if you wing your prey and he has his own version to tell of your ambush. )
Have you ever wanted to exercise your constitutionally guaranteed right to pump a lead slug into a real live human being? Ever wanted to really see if you can exercise that CCW privilege and pull your weapon when you need to? Ever wanted to track a live man through an urban jungle like a zombie killer? Ever wanted to be a hero and take out a punk like Clint would?
Well now you can !!
Come to Florida where the "Stand Your Ground" law allows you to go pick a fight in the name of justice and administer the righteous punishment that our wimpy left wing courts are all too afraid to hand out … The death penalty!
C'mon, we all know that the world is WAY too full of punk ass kids who smoke the Mary Jane and skip school. You know, the ones who might shop lift every now and again. Well these losers need to be TAKEN OUT! And who's going to take them out? The bumbling police who have their hands tied by stupid rules and regulations? You know they can't. Somebody has to rid this country of criminals like this and that somebody can be YOU!
Simply run down to your local Walmart and buy one of the two or three things that they sell that isn't made in China - a gun.
Next, choose a likely location to find a target … low rent housing areas, gas stations, malls, and biker bars are just a few of the thousands of target rich environments that we have in Florida.
Then simply go pick a fight. For instance you could find a low life looking biker - no need to make sure that he is a real criminal, after all he has probably done SOMETHING to justify his own death, you know, speeding, dope, porn, unmarried sex - and confront him. Your confrontation need not be complicated, you simply need to follow him on foot or if he's on his bike chase him in your car or better yet, chase him in your car when HE is on foot and then when he turns to confront you, BINGO, you've got him!! Draw. Aim. Squeeze.
Although the law works best when you are smaller than your "opponent", that's not a show stopper.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter how big you are; recent events have shown that even if you have 27 lbs and ten years on your target, you are still OK to kill him.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter where you are; public property is fine (but the fewer witnesses, the better) for killing someone.
You can still "Stand Your Ground" no matter how little training training you have had; Wanna-be cops are fine.
The ONLY thing you need to be sure of is that in the few seconds prior to you killing someone, you have to "fear for your life".
"How do I do that?" you ask?
Simple. Just look around and find a weapon that you can say the bad guy was going to kill you with. This could be something as obvious as a knife or as obtuse as a sidewalk. Really, if you can prove that your biker bully pushed you against a building and you hit your head, THAT'S his weapon - the 7-11 building. Or a phone pole, or a road, or a tree, or a floor, yup, pretty much anything can be called a weapon.
"But won't that hurt?" you ask?
Well, no pain, no gain. It's really best to have a scab to show the authorities no matter how small (and it's cool to show off to the chicks,too!) Remember, it's only for a second or two that you need to let him get the upper hand. Then, BLAMMO! You get to bag your prize!
So' c'mon down to Florida, where there is easy in-car tracking of human game and it's open season on punks! No Limit! No Permit! No Kidding!
WARNING: THIS OPPORTUNITY APPLIES ONLY IF YOU KILL YOUR PUNK . ( Best to brush up at the range, get some good ammo, and be prepared to fire in the kill zone from a close range. Complications may arise if you wing your prey and he has his own version to tell of your ambush. )
07-23-2013, 06:02 PM
#216
Da Hudge
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What an ignorant post, DC8... yikes!
07-23-2013, 06:23 PM
#217
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Please provide evidence that GZ approached TM. Everything I have seen you have it 180 out.
07-23-2013, 06:31 PM
#218
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Posts: 1,089
(1)"Could become confrontational ... lead to the use of lethal force?" Why would you be using lethal force against someone who was following you because you were acting suspicious? You do realize that you are on legal to use deadly force when confronted with deadly force? Why would you be fighting someone?
(2)If you don't want to get shot during a fight, don't fight! It is really that simple.
(3)I am profiled on a daily basis at work
(4) Profiling based on evidence, experience, or information is not a bad thing.
(5)Zimmerman observed Martin behaving "crazy" in his own words and later described to the police that he was looking into the windows of apartments ... on a rainy night. Seems very suspicious to me.
(2)If you don't want to get shot during a fight, don't fight! It is really that simple.
(3)I am profiled on a daily basis at work
(4) Profiling based on evidence, experience, or information is not a bad thing.
(5)Zimmerman observed Martin behaving "crazy" in his own words and later described to the police that he was looking into the windows of apartments ... on a rainy night. Seems very suspicious to me.
edited: please read DC8's post, it basically describes the scenario i was trying to paint!(2)true, but it's really not that simple!
(3)not a good feeling but if you or I have nothing to hide, then i guess it's considered ok! part of today's "securing our borders' program!
(4)i agree but if the "black" community feels they are being targeted(based on what is being shown on TV)then don't feed the stereotypes like what they did in the march/riot protest last week in LA where they vandalized property and beat up strangers !
(5)this, i didn't know! reason why i asked in my original post what made TM to be considered "suspicious"
Last edited by meeko031; 07-23-2013 at 06:54 PM.
07-23-2013, 06:36 PM
#219
alchemist
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(1) not really! I just didn't know that TM was looking through windows ("homework")
(2)I have no evidence, reason why i asked because that's what I thought I heard on the news! better to ask questions than form an opinion without knowing the facts! what exactly is it that i am trying to 180 out of?
Last edited by meeko031; 07-23-2013 at 07:00 PM.
07-23-2013, 06:44 PM
#220
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disturbing post, unless you're being satirical which is kind of hilarious!
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