What have you written an airplane up for?
03-29-2013, 08:37 AM
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Hmmm.... this thread is not getting traction. (Write it up!)
Another time I wrote up a 737 because on one side the brakes were shinny new. On the other side they were dirty and old. Actually I didn't write it up until I spoke to a mechanic. He explained they were half way through changing the TYPE of brakes installed on the jet. I asked him if it was OK to have different brakes on each side? He said it was. I wrote it up anyway just to get it in writing so he could justify his time and account for any delay. Low and behold, when he had to sign it off, it wasn't OK to split the brakes and they had to put the old ones back on.
Lesson learned, situation avoided.
Another time I wrote up a 737 because on one side the brakes were shinny new. On the other side they were dirty and old. Actually I didn't write it up until I spoke to a mechanic. He explained they were half way through changing the TYPE of brakes installed on the jet. I asked him if it was OK to have different brakes on each side? He said it was. I wrote it up anyway just to get it in writing so he could justify his time and account for any delay. Low and behold, when he had to sign it off, it wasn't OK to split the brakes and they had to put the old ones back on.
Lesson learned, situation avoided.
03-29-2013, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 
Be careful what you admit to. Technically you MUST write up any discrepancy when and where you find it.
Be careful what you admit to. Technically you MUST write up any discrepancy when and where you find it.
Your reply to rickair's post might be the most ignorant ill understood reply I've ever seen here on APC. Your opinions about unions have nothing to do with the fact that not writing up any maintenance discrepancy no how minor will NOT stop the FAA from violating you if they find that you observed yet DIDN'T address it.
That is how it works in the big mean real world of 121 or 135 flying. Carrying a known maintenance deficiency is like playing violation roulette.
03-29-2013, 10:52 AM
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Re: What have you written an airplane up for?
Comair pilots from writing up maintenance discrepancies during the holidays and ALPA
National said "Don't look at us, these guys are renegades!"
You think that made the Delta passengers booked on Comair flights feel any safer? Probably not. Ironic, ain't it?
U.S. District Judge William O. Bertelsman said the cancellations and disruptions cannot be allowed to continue into the holiday weekend. He also scolded company and union lawyers for not considering passengers.
“Nobody is thinking about them, you're all so bogged down in negotiations,” he said. “You're using the public as pawns in this chess game. ... We need to act quickly because the heavy travel season is upon us.”
“Nobody is thinking about them, you're all so bogged down in negotiations,” he said. “You're using the public as pawns in this chess game. ... We need to act quickly because the heavy travel season is upon us.”
03-29-2013, 07:39 PM
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Best Ive seen at C5 was the active noise and vibration (ANVS) written up. Somewhere along the lines somebody had some not so great hand writing and their v looked like a perfect u. Somebody has pictures of it.
On a side note: When it comes to writing something up... Just do it. I'm not going to risk my certs for a company who lies to me. Besides, in the long run you will probably not remember the write up or the delay that follows. You WILL remember any cert action for the rest of your days.
On a side note: When it comes to writing something up... Just do it. I'm not going to risk my certs for a company who lies to me. Besides, in the long run you will probably not remember the write up or the delay that follows. You WILL remember any cert action for the rest of your days.
03-30-2013, 10:29 AM
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Not a stab but the name must be used. Heard of a Netjet pilot writing up a plane because the automatic blinds were not folding precisely. Added a note about how this is not the image Netjets aircraft should portray.
03-30-2013, 10:32 AM
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And he's probably correct in that statement. High dollar customer want their stuff to work perfectly.
03-30-2013, 11:18 AM
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And if they don't have an NEF program, they have to do this.
03-30-2013, 11:52 AM
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That is a very correct statement and a valid write up. It would be a shame to lose business over a window shade, Etc. but it does happen. And you better have "booties" on your shoes when you go in to fix the window shade. For instance at Gulfstream and most other quality completion centers, dedicated flights are performed to function check interiors. They check all the cabinets, latches, seating and perform many other QC tests on the interior alone. They do it for a reason; reputation and the folks in back are paying the bills... PS, It's also a good idea to carry a small pair of scissors or small sharp pocket knife for loose threads and also a lint roller. It doesn't hurt to carry a set of booties in your flight bag if you need to walk the cabin either.
Last edited by Yoda2; 03-30-2013 at 11:59 AM. Reason: additional info
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