That Esquire SEAL story....
02-12-2013, 10:10 AM
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many folks coming out and it appears that the story is easily discredited.
So much for Esquire as being a credible source of information....
Esquire
So much for Esquire as being a credible source of information....
Esquire
Did you not read the article you yourself cite?
Esquire posted a lengthy rebuttal of Stars and Stripes on its website, taking issue with the newspaper's headline, "Esquire article wrongly claims SEAL who killed bin Laden is denied healthcare":
Nowhere in Bronstein's piece does he write that the Shooter was "denied" healthcare. Rather, what Bronstein's piece properly establishes is that once the Shooter and his colleagues separate from the service, they must go into the private market to buy insurance to match the coverage for themselves and their families that they had when they worked for the government, and that this transition is an abrupt one.
The magazine also rebutted Stars and Stripes' claim that all Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans are automatically eligible for five years of free health care:There is nothing automatic about benefits from the VA. Sources from the VA tell us that only 40% of eligible veterans use the benefits, because, as was the case with the Shooter, they aren't aware the benefits exist.
Esquire also noted that Bronstein did mention that "VA does offer five years of benefits for specific service-related claims," but that they are "not comprehensive" and do not cover "the Shooter’s family."
That said....yes, Esquire did say that. From my original post on the topic....
When he leaves after sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:
Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.
Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.
But it was not the author who wrote that, rather one of the editors promoting the article, so technically Esquire is correct in it's defense. They just aren't being honest.
02-12-2013, 11:20 AM
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Well I closed the other thread regarding this issue.
I'll let this one go for awhile with the warning that I won't just close the thread this time but issue reminders and infractions as appropriate if the posters who can solve all the world's problems can not follow the simple rules against political discussions.
What are those discussions you ask?
Anything that turn partisan or starts discussions about topics that inevitably turn into a MY POLITICS against YOUR POLITICS.
There are other forums where you can debate such things till the cows come home.
I'll let this one go for awhile with the warning that I won't just close the thread this time but issue reminders and infractions as appropriate if the posters who can solve all the world's problems can not follow the simple rules against political discussions.
What are those discussions you ask?
Anything that turn partisan or starts discussions about topics that inevitably turn into a MY POLITICS against YOUR POLITICS.
There are other forums where you can debate such things till the cows come home.
02-12-2013, 12:13 PM
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I can not, for the life of me, understand why this man (The Shooter) would trust the media? While Bronstein himself may be above reproach, the rest off the media will not rest until this man is "outed". Look how fast the real name of the author of "No Easy Day" surfaced? If not for his own safety but for the sake of his family, he would be better off driving the beer truck in Milwaukee.
On a nitpicking note, I liked the part about giving the CIA operative the magazine with 27 rounds in it. Wouldn't it have had 26 rounds left, unless they top off their magazines after chambering a round?
On a nitpicking note, I liked the part about giving the CIA operative the magazine with 27 rounds in it. Wouldn't it have had 26 rounds left, unless they top off their magazines after chambering a round?
02-12-2013, 05:25 PM
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I was disappointed to learn that Metallica had a hissy about their music being used. Man, those guys sure have changed.
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02-12-2013, 06:49 PM
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Did the shooter say WHY he is getting out?
I would think with 16 years in, he'd want to put in 4 more to get all that stuff he's missing out on, as an instructor or speaker to the rest of the special forces.
Seems if you are 'THE GUY' you could write your own ticket if you stayed in.
I would think with 16 years in, he'd want to put in 4 more to get all that stuff he's missing out on, as an instructor or speaker to the rest of the special forces.
Seems if you are 'THE GUY' you could write your own ticket if you stayed in.
02-14-2013, 01:49 AM
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I don't envy his position. There's not many "out to pasture" positions for active duty operators. 4 years seems short, but that would probably be a physically demanding 4 years. Also hard to switch jobs once you've put in that much effort to reach your goals. "I spend X years on the Teams and now I hand out basketballs at the gym?" A lot has changed in the military in the last 12 years and in the government's support of the military. Again, I don't envy his dilema.
02-14-2013, 04:48 AM
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