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Old 07-22-2012, 05:00 AM
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Came across this story while perusing the news.
Shooting survivor: Boyfriend 'took a bullet for me' - U.S. News

These hallowed words come to mind .
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends".



I find it sad that the previous thread on this story was locked and as we do have visitors on this site some degree of decorum might be in order.

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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
I find it sad that the previous thread on this story was locked and as we do have visitors on this site some degree of decorum might be in order.
These tragedies will continue because after all the tears, assault weapons will still be sold to the crazy and insane just as easily as they are to the frightened little boys
who dream of saving the day with their 9mm manhood - like George Zimmerman did.
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If this incident occurred in a movie theater in Texas, the gunman would be subdued or dead before he had gotten a second or third shot off, and it certainly would not have lasted 20 minutes.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/interne...rms/chl-16.pdf

Restrictions to concealed handguns in certain premises are on page 38, and movie theaters are not among them.

Texas passed this law in response to a similar massacre at a Luby's restaurant in 1991, where 23 people were shot to death and another 20 injured before the gunman shot himself.

Luby's massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us...columbine.html

In the never-ending argument, tragedy can become a talking point. Luke O’Dell, a spokesman for the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, a Colorado-based group that fights gun control measures, said private gun restrictions may well have had “tragic consequences” in the shootings.

He noted that the theater chain that owns the Aurora movie house bans firearms on the premises, and said that if other patrons had been legally able to carry weapons, the death toll might have been less. Mr. O’Dell also said that Mayor Bloomberg’s call for a discussion of gun issues was “exploiting the blood of these innocent victims to advance his political agenda.”
And Dynasty, you're right, that young man is a hero.

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Originally Posted by N2264J
These tragedies will continue because after all the tears, assault weapons will still be sold to the crazy and insane just as easily as they are to the frightened little boys
who dream of saving the day with their 9mm manhood - like George Zimmerman did.
Have you ever shot a weapon in your life? Have you done any military service?

I personally don't own a weapon, but after 24 years in the military I have shot thousands of rounds of ammo and am an expert marksman on the 9 mm and M16. I live in a great neighborhood in the country that's very safe; however, if I felt the need to own a weapon to protect my family, I wouldn't hesitate to get one, with the proper safety measures at home.

Maybe a better question is, would you be willing to take a bullet for your loved one like this brave guy did?
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
If this incident occurred in a movie theater in Texas, the gunman would be subdued or dead before he had gotten a second or third shot off, and it certainly would not have lasted 20 minutes.
How so? Do the folks in Texas attend Batman movies with weapons that carry armor piercing bullets? Or are they braver than Coloradans and would have charged through a hail of bullets to somehow subdue the gunman before his AR jammed? And you say they would have done this before the second or third shot got off. Do you know how many rounds an AR can discharge per second?
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Originally Posted by N2264J
These tragedies will continue because after all the tears, assault weapons will still be sold to the crazy and insane just as easily as they are to the frightened little boys
who dream of saving the day with their 9mm manhood - like George Zimmerman did.
Apparently you are allowed to insult any one who carries while you are protected by the moderators. Turns out I was right the nice young progressive was the recipient of a federal grant. So we all did by his Ammo.

Shooting suspect had federal grant, university says | Fox News
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
If this incident occurred in a movie theater in Texas, the gunman would be subdued or dead before he had gotten a second or third shot off, and it certainly would not have lasted 20 minutes.
How so? Do the folks in Texas attend Batman movies with weapons that carry armor piercing bullets? Or are they braver than Coloradans and would have charged through a hail of bullets to somehow subdue the gunman before his AR jammed? And you say they would have done this before the second or third shot got off. Do you know how many rounds an AR can discharge per second?
Here are the statistics. It's not a matter of bravery at all, it's a matter of policy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1552567/posts
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Here are the statistics. It's not a matter of bravery at all, it's a matter of policy.

Texas Concealed Handgun Law: Ten Years Later
That link doesn't explain to me how Texans would have killed or subdued the guy with three guns in a dark, smoke filled theater, dressed from head to toe in armor. I'll gladly re-read it if you tell me exactly where to look.
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A ballistic helmet will not protect an individual from a shot to the face from the front. Nor is body armor foolproof.
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Guns don't kill people... people kill people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. People like this will find access to the tools to commit heinous crimes regardless of the laws. Aurora, CO is one of the more strict areas of the country regarding gun-ownership laws and this happened there.

It would be foolish to think that a person/persons with concealed carry would have made much a difference. The guy was wearing body armor and was well armed. But to think that tougher gun laws and outright banning of firearms is the solution to this kind of thing is plain ignorance.
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