Elvis90

Here are the statistics I was referring to:

Since the passage of the Concealed Handgun Law, the FBI Uniform Crime Report shows an 18% drop in handgun murders, down from 838 in 1995 to 688 in 2004. And a 13% drop in handgun murders per 100,000 population, down from 4.5 murders per 100,000 Texans in 1995 to 3.95 per 100,000 in 2004.

89Pistons

So someone (a Texan) would have shot him in the face, through his armor that isn't fool proof, from a distance, in the smoke, and in the dark, while patrons were scrambling in every direction?

89Pistons

But you said that if it happened in Texas that he would have been subdued or killed before the second or third shot. Those stats don't tell me how.

Elvis90

Do you fly for United in Denver? Are you taking this personally? It's not intended as an affront to Coloradoans. If there were Colorado residents with concealed handguns in the theater I have no doubt that they would do whatever it took with their weapon to take the murderer down.

Elvis90

The statistics show the difference concealed handgun laws make over a 10-year period. That implies that we would likely have a different outcome in Colorado if concealed carriers were available there. This is my last post regarding this issue.

89Pistons

I don't take it personally. I appreciate your responses but I haven't found an answer to my question. We know that guns weren't allowed in the theater. No one on this board knows for sure that there weren't other patrons in the theater with a gun.
I'm just trying to get an answer to why, and how, this would have turned out different in Texas.

FDXLAG

Much better to sit in your seat and take it like a real progressive man would. Perhaps explaining to your loved how the young man is a victim of the pressures of western civilization before they take one themselves.

89Pistons

Where did I say I would sit in my seat? What are you talking about? Do you have an answer to my previous question about how this would have been stopped had people been allowed to take guns into the theater? I'm a gun owner(had my first one when 12), trained, practiced, and have been in real life situations where people got shot and I have been shot at. I still fail to see how this situation would have been different in Texas.

I see your points are weak. That's why you throw out words like "progressive" and infer that I said somewhere that the gunman, or someone else, is a victim of western pressures. Nowhere did I say that. No one said that. You made it up in an attempt to change the question at hand. But if you do have an answer to the question in my previous post I'd like to see it. Otherwise you should stop making inferences about me especially when I didn't make any about you.

FDXLAG

When you ask an idiotic hypothetical question you wont get an answer you like. How many people are carrying, where are they sitting, who is sitting next to them? How is their weapon holstered? Have they ever been gassed before? You ask what would have happened if someone else had been armed I answer we know what happened when someone else wasnt.

In this specific set of circumstances maybe someone else with a weapon would not have mattered. Should I give you hypothetical situations where it would make a difference? If caught in a situation like this your choices are run, hide or attack. If I choose to attack I would prefer to have something in my hand besides skittles.

SiShane

The situation would have been different in Texas in that there would at least be some resistance and bullets traveling towards the crazy guy. Armor or not you are going feel something and if enough people were shooting back at this guy it might have at least slowed him down or stopped him. Instead this guy had free reign to make this movie theater into his own shooting gallery. Back to topic Blunk is a hero no doubt.