Marriage biologically compatible with man?
#1
Marriage biologically compatible with man?
Guys -
Legit question, from a happily married man. Is the concept of marriage biologically compatible with being a man ? I mean, 13 years into marriage, and I am still checking out the opposite sex in the terminal.
Etc etc
In the wild kingdom, the males are out ensuring that their DNA is spread around, thats their design. Some countries, Europe, Latin America, having a side girlfriend is very accepted and normal. Not justifying it, but just putting it out there.
I find it unreasonable that checking out the opposite sex, while married, or even throwing down with a hot FA one night, is gonna reserve a chair in hell between the chairs labeled "John Wayne Gacy" and "Osama Bin Laden". I mean, come on.
Thoughts/discussion wanted
Legit question, from a happily married man. Is the concept of marriage biologically compatible with being a man ? I mean, 13 years into marriage, and I am still checking out the opposite sex in the terminal.
Etc etc
In the wild kingdom, the males are out ensuring that their DNA is spread around, thats their design. Some countries, Europe, Latin America, having a side girlfriend is very accepted and normal. Not justifying it, but just putting it out there.
I find it unreasonable that checking out the opposite sex, while married, or even throwing down with a hot FA one night, is gonna reserve a chair in hell between the chairs labeled "John Wayne Gacy" and "Osama Bin Laden". I mean, come on.
Thoughts/discussion wanted
#2
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Based on our body's evolution and our closest genetic apes, the bonobos, we are designed for social sex. Marriage is a construct that was born out of settling down and taking up property. In order to ensure passage of your property (land) to your son, you had to make sure that son was yours. The best way to do that was to lay claim to a woman, literally. Only by "marrying" her did you make her yours and lock any other man out of her marriage bed. So yeah, you can thank the agricultural revolution for our poor health, marriage, and warfare.
Here are just a couple of evolutionary examples:
1) the gorilla has a harem of female gorillas, and he only mates with them when they are ready for a new baby every couple of years. Despite the fact that he can have tons of females in his harem, most gorillas only have sex roughly 60 times during their lifetime. Their penis is about 1 inch long and their balls are almost non-existant - they have very, very little sperm per ejaculation. They usually don't need to have sex more than once to ensure insemination.
Contrary to that, the human male has the largest penis to body size ratio in the known animal kingdom and shoots out millions of sperm each "shot" - he is designed for social sex. Gorillas don't need lots of sperm and a long penis to make sure his little guy makes it to the female's ovaries, because he already fought for them and won them physically. That is also why male gorillas are twice the size of female gorillas - so they can fight over them. All the competition happens outside of the woman's vagina.
Contrast that with a human male to female, and we males are only 15% larger than the females, on average. We are not designed to fight other males for our right to mate. We are all designed to have a chance with any female in our tribe; the competition actually happens at the level of the sperm.
2) Sperm competition is a really crazy thing. Look at it this way, the woman's vagina is a veritable gauntlet for sperm. First of all, it's an entirely acidic environment, and most sperm are dead within minutes of entering it. Not to mention all the little channels and valleys and tubes the sperm have to race through just to even attempt to find an egg.
3) Male ejaculations take, on average, 5 minutes to reach. Women usually take much longer and are rarely pleased by a single male; they are designed to have sex with multiple partners at one time. A woman could easily take 3 or 4 or 5 men at a single time before she reaches climax. Before we placed social rules on sex, women would attempt to sleep with as many males as possible, this assured her that the male with the strongest and most worthy semen would achieve success in inseminating her.
4) A male's semen is designed to fight another male's semen. On average, there are roughly 9 "spurts" of ejaculate. The first 3 are coated in a protective layer designed to shield them from a previous man's ejaculation into the same woman. The next 3 are designed as the "inseminating" layer - they're the ones you hope to get through. The last three "spurts" are designed as a weapon, they literally attack the next male's ejaculate that should happen to fire off in the same woman.
Conclusion: this is just some of the evidence from human evolution. Another fun topic of study is our nearest living relatives, the bonobos. They are social ape, where the females literally have sex with any male willing. This keeps the tension down amongst the males - there are literally NO known fights that have led to violence in the 10s of years we have been watching them. When one tribe of bonobos meets another tribe, the females intermingle with the males from amongst the tribes, have merry sex, get new blood into the tribe from the children, and everyone gets along. Again, in the last 30 or 40 years of human beings watching bonobos, not one bonobo has ever been seen physically fighting with another bonobo. Sex truly is a wonderful tool to help keep the peace.
Well, I hope that answers your question. Marriage and monogomy are man-made social prisons designed to keep women locked into one specific man's bed chamber - he must be assured his bloodline has been kept so when it is time to pass his land and possessions on, he knows it is in fact his son.
Here are just a couple of evolutionary examples:
1) the gorilla has a harem of female gorillas, and he only mates with them when they are ready for a new baby every couple of years. Despite the fact that he can have tons of females in his harem, most gorillas only have sex roughly 60 times during their lifetime. Their penis is about 1 inch long and their balls are almost non-existant - they have very, very little sperm per ejaculation. They usually don't need to have sex more than once to ensure insemination.
Contrary to that, the human male has the largest penis to body size ratio in the known animal kingdom and shoots out millions of sperm each "shot" - he is designed for social sex. Gorillas don't need lots of sperm and a long penis to make sure his little guy makes it to the female's ovaries, because he already fought for them and won them physically. That is also why male gorillas are twice the size of female gorillas - so they can fight over them. All the competition happens outside of the woman's vagina.
Contrast that with a human male to female, and we males are only 15% larger than the females, on average. We are not designed to fight other males for our right to mate. We are all designed to have a chance with any female in our tribe; the competition actually happens at the level of the sperm.
2) Sperm competition is a really crazy thing. Look at it this way, the woman's vagina is a veritable gauntlet for sperm. First of all, it's an entirely acidic environment, and most sperm are dead within minutes of entering it. Not to mention all the little channels and valleys and tubes the sperm have to race through just to even attempt to find an egg.
3) Male ejaculations take, on average, 5 minutes to reach. Women usually take much longer and are rarely pleased by a single male; they are designed to have sex with multiple partners at one time. A woman could easily take 3 or 4 or 5 men at a single time before she reaches climax. Before we placed social rules on sex, women would attempt to sleep with as many males as possible, this assured her that the male with the strongest and most worthy semen would achieve success in inseminating her.
4) A male's semen is designed to fight another male's semen. On average, there are roughly 9 "spurts" of ejaculate. The first 3 are coated in a protective layer designed to shield them from a previous man's ejaculation into the same woman. The next 3 are designed as the "inseminating" layer - they're the ones you hope to get through. The last three "spurts" are designed as a weapon, they literally attack the next male's ejaculate that should happen to fire off in the same woman.
Conclusion: this is just some of the evidence from human evolution. Another fun topic of study is our nearest living relatives, the bonobos. They are social ape, where the females literally have sex with any male willing. This keeps the tension down amongst the males - there are literally NO known fights that have led to violence in the 10s of years we have been watching them. When one tribe of bonobos meets another tribe, the females intermingle with the males from amongst the tribes, have merry sex, get new blood into the tribe from the children, and everyone gets along. Again, in the last 30 or 40 years of human beings watching bonobos, not one bonobo has ever been seen physically fighting with another bonobo. Sex truly is a wonderful tool to help keep the peace.
Well, I hope that answers your question. Marriage and monogomy are man-made social prisons designed to keep women locked into one specific man's bed chamber - he must be assured his bloodline has been kept so when it is time to pass his land and possessions on, he knows it is in fact his son.
#3
I don't know your life or marriage, but I can tell your searching for validation for how you feel and how to act. It is not unreasonable to "check out" the opposite sex. Marriage is very complicated. It doesn't always fulfill all our needs nor can it. It is not a contract to be entered in lightly. People will always be hurt with infidelity. Tread carefully.
Thoughts/discussion wanted
#7
Yes, there are----I've seen some stunners in my travels. The BIGGER question is are there still dashing, intelligent and mature pilots? I mean with all the spiky hair, ipods, backpacks, unshined shoes and abhorance to wearing the hat (and full uniform, correctly) it's slim pickins' these days---except in Europe and the Middle East where their pilot group can let me entertain some very naughty thoughts.
#8
"Offended?!" You'd be hard-pressed to find 5 males to agree to be with 1 female. Pretty much NOT gonna happen since men are a bit skittish about "competition." Funny, but the same men have NO problem with the idea of being with multiple females at the same time. Hmmmmmmmm.
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"Offended?!" You'd be hard-pressed to find 5 males to agree to be with 1 female. Pretty much NOT gonna happen since men are a bit skittish about "competition." Funny, but the same men have NO problem with the idea of being with multiple females at the same time. Hmmmmmmmm.
#10
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You know they've done studies on porn. It turns out that most guys don't really enjoy watching girl on girl... evolutionary-wise, we have evolved to "wait our turn" while watching another man have sex. And that's why you enjoy watching another man have sex with a girl whenever you watch your porn! The more you know!
Last edited by acl65pilot; 07-15-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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