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Old 09-19-2017, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
When you say you weren't outside sop. That means you probably were.
Well I don't have the FDR to prove it to myself, but the speed was always in the bug below 1000' AGL (although the trend vector got way too large for my taste at times), and we were never more than a dot off laterally or vertically. But it was just one of those approaches where I was working way too hard for no reason. It just felt like lousy airmanship. Don't you ever have days like that?
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:10 AM
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Tailwinds, sure. But a Super is probably flying a coupled approach.
"Probably"?

You just shot down your entire argument. A better statement for yourself would have been, "I would assume the Super is flying a coupled approach"
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:03 AM
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Well I don't have the FDR to prove it to myself, but the speed was always in the bug below 1000' AGL (although the trend vector got way too large for my taste at times), and we were never more than a dot off laterally or vertically. But it was just one of those approaches where I was working way too hard for no reason. It just felt like lousy airmanship. Don't you ever have days like that?

No, I only fly tier 1 approaches 🙄
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:00 AM
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That's theory. Then there's the reality of one's own experience, which I suppose affects how we all fly. A few years back I had a rather unforgettable first-hand experience in which I was rolled fully inverted at 1000' AGL on final behind an A300. Fortunately I'd had upset training, so I'm here to talk about it. Unloaded the wing with a very firm push and kept 'er rolling all the way around -- the roll was too abrupt to follow the natural instinct, which is of course to stop the roll and reverse it.
A transport category aircraft you were flying rolled fully inverted behind an A300 at 1,000 AGL?
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:06 AM
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^^^^^I call bullsh!t on this too. And upset recovery is to roll in the shortest direction to wings level!
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:53 AM
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^^^^^I call bullsh!t on this too. And upset recovery is to roll in the shortest direction to wings level!
If you are 1/8 through an 8 point roll just bring it around and don't be scared. You sound like a weak pilot.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
A few years back I had a rather unforgettable first-hand experience in which I was rolled fully inverted at 1000' AGL on final behind an A300.
Things you did at Delta Virtual Airlines dont count. You realize that wasn't real life right?
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:22 AM
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Things you did at Delta Virtual Airlines dont count. You realize that wasn't real life right?
Where did I say it was a transport category aircraft?

It was a Meridian, for crying out loud.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDukeSix
^^^^^I call bullsh!t on this too. And upset recovery is to roll in the shortest direction to wings level!
No, that's not how I was taught in the 3 days I spent in a Pitts. If the roll is strong enough, push and roll in the direction of the induced roll.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AC560
If you are 1/8 through an 8 point roll just bring it around and don't be scared. You sound like a weak pilot.
Not what your mom said!
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