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Old 07-04-2017, 10:06 AM
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Was relief FO once pre-9/11, and every time we hit barely a ripple the aft FA's started obnoxiously yelling to turn on the FSB sign. During this era in our crew relations, it was difficult to sort out real problems from general beetchyness.

CA directed me to go back to see what the problem was, before I even got to the front part of Coach, I was set upon by the Wicked Witches of the East and West in tight formation. The situation degenerated quickly into me informing them the CA was in charge and me heading back up front.

I probably would have figured the problem out had I gotten to the aft galley and not been "attacked".

One week later while on the same flight on my break, it was the same light ripples in front, so I wandered back to the aft galley to see the difference in the ride. In the Aft Galley, it was swaying all over the place and I couldn't walk without bracing myself. I called up the CP, and after switching to the other Yaw Damper, it went rock solid smooth. It was the same jet as last week. Problem solved.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
Was relief FO once pre-9/11, and every time we hit barely a ripple the aft FA's started obnoxiously yelling to turn on the FSB sign. During this era in our crew relations, it was difficult to sort out real problems from general beetchyness.

CA directed me to go back to see what the problem was, before I even got to the front part of Coach, I was set upon by the Wicked Witches of the East and West in tight formation. The situation degenerated quickly into me informing them the CA was in charge and me heading back up front.

I probably would have figured the problem out had I gotten to the aft galley and not been "attacked".

One week later while on the same flight on my break, it was the same light ripples in front, so I wandered back to the aft galley to see the difference in the ride. In the Aft Galley, it was swaying all over the place and I couldn't walk without bracing myself. I called up the CP, and after switching to the other Yaw Damper, it went rock solid smooth. It was the same jet as last week. Problem solved.
Pretty commonsense approach to an easy problem. The 'I'm the captain' crowd unfortunately has a bunch to learn and sometimes make this job much more complicated than it needs to be.

The other problem we're having is the 'don't mind me texting during the middle of my PC or oral' crowd as well..... Right, Shy?
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:52 PM
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I thought the cool cats can fly a V1 cut with one hand, text with the other, one foot pushing the rudder, and the other foot jamming to the tunes that are blasting in the headset via bluetooth
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:21 PM
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Tool of the day is..... https://mobile.twitter.com/JiHyun42
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Old 07-05-2017, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
TOTD goes to agent wouldn't let me jumpseat without checking my bag. I asked if I could at least ask the captain for a ride and they probably have space for bag too. "The captain is not in charge. I am. Either you check your bag or you will not board the flight"

Captain asks where my bag is. I tell him it's already down below. He said sorry about that. I then see that about a 1/3 of the bins are empty in back.


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I've had this happen several times. I just go along with it, thank the agent for the hospitality and the ride, wheel my bag down, ask the crew if there is room for my bag, then remove the tag and store it in a bin or the cockpit. Winning friends and influencing people makes commuting so much easier.
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Old 07-05-2017, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
I've had this happen several times. I just go along with it, thank the agent for the hospitality and the ride, wheel my bag down, ask the crew if there is room for my bag, then remove the tag and store it in a bin or the cockpit. Winning friends and influencing people makes commuting so much easier.

This is usually my strategy but this gate had the bag chute at the podium. When I tried to go down with my bag the agent ran down and stopped me. His way or the highway, so I had to without getting security called or something.


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Old 07-05-2017, 07:16 AM
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This is usually my strategy but this gate had the bag chute at the podium. When I tried to go down with my bag the agent ran down and stopped me. His way or the highway, so I had to without getting security called or something.


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This is always the story when commuting on AA.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:58 AM
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Tool of the day is..... https://mobile.twitter.com/JiHyun42
Whats she going on about?
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
This is usually my strategy but this gate had the bag chute at the podium. When I tried to go down with my bag the agent ran down and stopped me. His way or the highway, so I had to without getting security called or something.


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Yep. This has happened to me also. Sorry man. I had a ramp guy in CLT once (AA) decide he didn't want to carry a crew bag up the jetway stairs so he took my gate checked bag, hand wrote a check tag, and sent it to the bag belt without telling anyone. After having the gate agent, captain, and ramp supervisor try and find my gate check on the aircraft, the station manager finally told me that it had been sent to baggage claim as per their policy of no gate checks.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:35 AM
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I've had this happen several times. I just go along with it, thank the agent for the hospitality and the ride, wheel my bag down, ask the crew if there is room for my bag, then remove the tag and store it in a bin or the cockpit. Winning friends and influencing people makes commuting so much easier.
Just FYI, this is a TSA violation that can get you, and everyone else, in some hot water. We got a memo about this awhile back at UAL. Once the bag has been tagged it MUST be checked. Unfortunately some agents are quite obstructionist about the whole thing. Sure makes me appreciate jumping on airlines like SWA that usually let me pre-board, or Alaska and Virgin that will kindly put a gate-check tag on there for me
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