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Old 08-07-2016, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Did you call him/her on it?
No, I just figured that perhaps the guy was having a bad day. Or that he was one of those guys with a chip on his shoulder about the regionals. Or possibly that he was just really antisocial.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:10 PM
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Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
Let me help you out with that;

"thanks for flying the route I gave away on (insert scope give by legacy airline pilot on a pre pre 9/11 dollar bills and big jets for small jet giveaway here)"

And round and round a chicken-egg circle jerk could go........

Another one from "the jumpseat files"...........

Hub to hub city pair, there's lot of non-revs, there ALWAYS IS. Standard, pilots ALWAYS list for non-rev and JS, it's just what commuters do. Turns out, ALL non-revs cleared on stand by passes and didn't have to JS, to include the express employees.

Legacy CA makes an RJ CA get out of his last row middle seat, walk all the way up to the cockpit, and check in with him. Even though he cleared on a non rev pass. CA acts appalled that RJ CA didn't check in. Turns out, even the gate agent told the CA everyone cleared and no one was JS'ing.

CA wouldn't close the door till the RJ CA came up to the cockpit and said "hi".

When the call is made to get his side of the story, his rationale is "well I'm just doing my job". No clue when got written in that it's the CA's job to police the non revs as well.......
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:14 AM
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If the flight was from SEA it would be a stolen Horizon route
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Old 08-08-2016, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Is it required for all non-revs to acknowledge you and say thanks? If he was pass riding what is the big deal? He was using a seat in the cabin and sounds like you were trying to elicit a thanks for giving him the ride when in actuality it was his pass privilege that actually got him the ride.

Also was this on a route that was previously flown as a manline flight? Perhaps the "thanks for flying the route I previously flew" would not have been received well by you and your need for acknowledgement.
Well it is considered common courtesy, especially when the roles are reversed. If in fact said commuter was really concerned about the fact that SkyWest was operating a route they previously flew, they certainly didn't show it when they voted away scope language. I never flew for SkyWest, nor any other jet regional, but they certainly do not shoulder the blame for the monster that is now the "regional" industry. That egg lays directly on the face of the selfish morons that sold the career down the toilet for an hourly rate. Sorry.. I know it hurts but that's the truth fellas.
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
Seriously? You have got to be kiddin me. You want non revs togive you a thanks? All gate agents, FAs, parents, children? What makes ita common courtesy? Who made that rule? Do you feel special if someone says thanks.

Please if you are non reving on my flight, DONT come up say thanks. Get in your seat and relax.
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:29 AM
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Before heading overseas, I greeted jumpseaters in the boarding area. I checked their credentials, took the flight crew copy of their jumpseat pass and told them to enjoy the hospitality and didn't have to check in with us whilst boarding or deplaning. Busy times... don't need nor like interruptions while completing paperwork, FMC programming, checklists, briefings and what not. Couldn't care less if they didn't poke their heads in while deplaning. Perhaps they are preoccupied with issues such as short time at home, connecting flights, or family issues.

Overseas, only company pilots are eligible for the jumpseat. Some would and some wouldn't come in the cockpit to say hey or bye. Same applies for most.... many don't care if jumpseaters come to the cockpit to bestow good tidings or farewells.

I can understand that some may take it as an affront when the crew's greet or farewell is ignored. But at the end of the day, is it the end of the world? Should one take a picture of the "offending" jumpseater, and draw a red circle with a slash on the portrait indicating a ban from their jumpseat? Believe it or not some crewmembers kept a log of jumpseat riders with a check or an X next to their names.

At the end of the day, there are more important issues to deal with on a day to day basis whilst operating a four sector day then getting wrapped around the axle about unfriendly or considered to be rude jumpseaters.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
No, I just figured that perhaps the guy was having a bad day. Or that he was one of those guys with a chip on his shoulder about the regionals. Or possibly that he was just really antisocial.
Could be all of the above. However, complaining about it on a forum makes you look "toolish". If you're that bothered by his/her actions call them on it. Complaining here accomplishes nothing.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Seriously? You have got to be kiddin me. You want non revs togive you a thanks? All gate agents, FAs, parents, children? What makes ita common courtesy? Who made that rule? Do you feel special if someone says thanks.

Please if you are non reving on my flight, DONT come up say thanks. Get in your seat and relax.
You're not getting it. I was standing in the doorway, greeting all the pax. All of them, except this guy, either returned or acknowledged my greeting.

I would never expect a nonrev to poke their head in the flight deck and say hi. I certainly don't, when I'm nonrevving. But to blatantly ignore someone standing there welcoming you on board , I think that's just rude.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Latest nominee: the UAL CA who nonrevved on us (Skywest) a couple days ago. I greeted him as he boarded with a friendly 'welcome aboard, Captain', only to be completely ignored. Same thing happened when we deplaned. Not even a glance of acknowledgement, no 'thanks for the ride,' nothing. And I know he was a nonrev guy, not deadheading.

The complete absence of professional courtesy was just mind-boggling.
After getting older, I've realized that sometimes people have a lot on their minds and omit the courtesy's sometimes. Guy might have been awake for 48 hours too.
On one two-leg Europe trip, I thought about calling out a older FA for a lack of simple crew courtesy. She kinda of stared and would walk away multiple times (not operational stuff). Glad I didn't. I later learned her husband died suddenly something like 5 days prior. 3 days prior she found out he hadn't paid any life insurance bills and the bank accounts were empty. She had to work the trip to pay the rent (already used bereavement pay for trip earlier).

If you see "Captain Happy" 2 or 3 more times down the road, then he should be a candidate for TOTD. It's rare, but there are still a few of us with the recluse non-social engineer behavior.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
After getting older, I've realized that sometimes people have a lot on their minds and omit the courtesy's sometimes. Guy might have been awake for 48 hours too.
On one two-leg Europe trip, I thought about calling out a older FA for a lack of simple crew courtesy. She kinda of stared and would walk away multiple times (not operational stuff). Glad I didn't. I later learned her husband died suddenly something like 5 days prior. 3 days prior she found out he hadn't paid any life insurance bills and the bank accounts were empty. She had to work the trip to pay the rent (already used bereavement pay for trip earlier).

If you see "Captain Happy" 2 or 3 more times down the road, then he should be a candidate for TOTD. It's rare, but there are still a few of us with the recluse non-social engineer behavior.
Good point, you're absolutely right. If my wife had passed 5 days prior I wouldn't be able to drive myself to the airport, let alone fly an airplane...
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