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Old 01-15-2016, 08:12 AM
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Skateboard, hoverboard, whatever...
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Let's just say the FFDO program has been equally successful in preventing hijacking as it has preventing elephant stampedes.

So, yeah, it works.

Of course there is at least one airplane with a hole in its cockpit thanks to our brave FFDOs.

And since all of the incidents since 9/11 have originated overseas, you'll have to explain how the FFDO program is preventing those.
So you're in touch with terrorist groups. They told you that there's no deterrence of hijacking with armed pilots?
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:09 AM
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So you're in touch with terrorist groups. They told you that there's no deterrence of hijacking with armed pilots?
Your ooonnnn ggguuuuaaaarrrdddd!!!
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
Your ooonnnn ggguuuuaaaarrrdddd!!!
Was that a possessive statement? It's "you're".
If you're going to throw down at least look halfway intelligent while doing so.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:30 AM
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This thread is bummin' me out now. It used to be a place where you'd come to read other peoples' observations of tools in their day to day lives. Now it's a place where you come to make your own observation of tools. Please, for everyone and their sanity, go back to posting about other tools. Tools for everyone!
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Was that a possessive statement? It's "you're".
If you're going to throw down at least look halfway intelligent while doing so.
lol.... nerd!
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:19 PM
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TOTD: The mainline captain who tried to sneak down the jetbridge to claim the jumpseat as his own. Even though the flight was being operated by a regional, and a company regional pilot had already listed for the Jump.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
lol.... nerd!
Yup. Nerd here. Graduated high school.
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Yup. Nerd here. Graduated high school.
Was that a come back? I couldn't tell nerd
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
But you don't understand. The groupthink squad needs a target. If he's on ignore the target disappears.
Absolutely correct. It is particularly strong, but expression limited to a vocal subgroup of the usual suspects. The vast majority of pilots or people, when sufficiently educated on an issue, can be extremely rational.

It is not surprising that the groupthink potential is particularly strong in cohesive military or police groups, also evidenced here - my Chuck Yeager quote is irritating to them which is why he is personally discredited / attacked to the outgroup (nothing to do with flight knowledge, etc.) Obviously this kind of phenomenon can be a beneficial / adaptive thing in war, but, we're not at war here. This phenomenon is a big reason that a civilian is the head of our military.

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints, by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.
Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup"). Furthermore, groupthink can produce dehumanizing actions against the "outgroup".
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So you're in touch with terrorist groups. They told you that there's no deterrence of hijacking with armed pilots?
I'm pretty sure that terrorist groups appreciate KCM and the FFDO program which are great avenues for attack.

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Yup. Nerd here. Graduated high school.
You're one of "the 1%" here.

Let's get back to TOTD. I was going to nominate a lavender tool but his quote was apparently deleted.
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