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Old 06-11-2015, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
This TA sucks, but these guys do a thankless job for what? So keyboard commandos can post such drivel?
I would ask everyone of them if they voted yes because that was the input they got from their constituents or did they vote that way because they didn't want to make that decision and decided to turn it over to the pilot group? First option I can live with, the second one is an abdication of responsibility and they deserve to be recalled.

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Sorry for the thread jack. I nominate myself for totd.

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Old 06-12-2015, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

the yes reps...

This TA sucks, but these guys do a thankless job
"But" nothing. It's easy to see why they don't get thanked, isn't it?

Just exactly what job did they do, other than allow themselves to be utterly, completely bent-over and gimped by DAL mgmt? I bet they STILL have the ball-gags lashed to their heads!

Record profits, a friggin' $5 BILLION dollar stock buyback program ($5,000,000,000) CLEARLY intended to further enrich the mgmt group (whose compensation comprises of approx. 80% stock and options!), and the yes reps vote to give up concessions, cowardly throwing it to the entire pilot group to vote down instead of sacking up themselves to get the job done???

Like I said, any monkey could've done that. It takes exactly zero effort to be someone's personal gimp, like the yes reps clearly are for Richy Rich Anderson & Co. Otherwise, they would have told him to take the TA and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine (unless you are a gimp, of course, as their's get plenty of sunshine).



(that's Richard Anderson with a DAL yes rep, above, picking the next DAL yes rep he is going to bend over for his pleasure)


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
This TA converts EASK's to block hours THEN reduces it even further. The result is an instant cure of the old 1.5% loss of those Delta pilot jobs and SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS for an ADDITIONAL (approx) 1% reduction in case management needs it.

But it gets worse. The change from EASK's to block hours ALLOWS the company to drastically down-gauge to smaller (lower paying) aircraft while shifting those extra DELTA PASSENGERS to a JV partner...and be in full compliance with the contract.

Read the language folks. It's all there.

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And Carl didn't even mention the medical BS the mgmt group wanted...and got...in the TA.

Really, if you think this TA is anywhere near fair, you need your head examined for void spaces.

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Old 06-12-2015, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I would ask everyone of them if they voted yes because that was the input they got from their constituents or did they vote that way because they didn't want to make that decision and decided to turn it over to the pilot group? First option I can live with, the second one is an abdication of responsibility and they deserve to be recalled.
I AGREE completely with your statement.

However, had the reps sent it back, there would always be the whiners that take the stance of the following;

"Who is ALPA to tell ME what I should be allowed to vote on!!!??!!!!???!!"

Or

"It B.S. that we didn't get to see it!!!!!!"

I SAY AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT/STANCE. So before a TOTD (NOT you Denny) pipes up, I'm just sayin'.....

But I watched this play out once before in a previous life.
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Old 06-13-2015, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
"But" nothing. It's easy to see why they don't get thanked, isn't it?

Just exactly what job did they do, other than allow themselves to be utterly, completely bent-over and gimped by DAL mgmt? I bet they STILL have the ball-gags lashed to their heads!

Record profits, a friggin' $5 BILLION dollar stock buyback program ($5,000,000,000) CLEARLY intended to further enrich the mgmt group (whose compensation comprises of approx. 80% stock and options!), and the yes reps vote to give up concessions, cowardly throwing it to the entire pilot group to vote down instead of sacking up themselves to get the job done???

Like I said, any monkey could've done that. It takes exactly zero effort to be someone's personal gimp, like the yes reps clearly are for Richy Rich Anderson & Co. Otherwise, they would have told him to take the TA and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine (unless you are a gimp, of course, as their's get plenty of sunshine).



(that's Richard Anderson with a DAL yes rep, above, picking the next DAL yes rep he is going to bend over for his pleasure)




And Carl didn't even mention the medical BS the mgmt group wanted...and got...in the TA.

Really, if you think this TA is anywhere near fair, you need your head examined for void spaces.
I have no intention of voting for this TA. But your middle school rantings say far more about you than anything else.

I say it again. I dare you to say any of the above in person to your reps. Anonymous keyboard rantings are easy, and even a little fun.

The NY reps did it right. Here were our expectations going in, here are the myriad ways in which the TA did not meet the expectations and thus our vote. No rants, no name calling.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:29 AM
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Delta guys who feel the need to hijack every single thread on here. There are multiple threads on your TA. Post on one of those or start your own forum.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Delta guys who feel the need to hijack every single thread on here. There are multiple threads on your TA. Post on one of those or start your own forum.


I agree there should be a Delta forum. There's United and AA. Just get a Delta one up there too.
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Old 06-13-2015, 08:20 AM
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Reminds me of the fight scene from Blazing Saddles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...MK6lzmSk2o#t=7

To the fine double breasted pilots from non existent breadstick on cognac carrier... kindly take your woes back to the DAL threads.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by labbats
I agree there should be a Delta forum. There's United and AA. Just get a Delta one up there too.
Whether the UCH pilots want to admit it or not, the merger is DONE. No need for its own section.

Replace it with a DAL TA section.

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Old 06-13-2015, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Whether the UCH pilots want to admit it or not, the merger is DONE. No need for its its own section.

Replace it with a DAL TA section.
Now you gone and done it.... DALTA is or was the acronym used for my approach briefing

D - Descent
A - Approach
L - Landing
T - Taxi
A - Apron

No breadsticks or cognac for you!
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Originally Posted by captjns


Now you gone and done it.... DALTA is or was the acronym used for my approach briefing

D - Descent
A - Approach
L - Landing
T - Taxi
A - Apron

No breadsticks or cognac for you!
Well, Ya see, it's like this. I wrote DAL (space) TA. Just like it's Delta Air (space) Lines.

Don't care about breadsticks, and I'm a scotch/bourbon/whiskey guy.
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