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02-24-2014, 01:41 PM

#4991

Elliot

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Captain actual was started at Pan Am from the flying boat days.

^^This.^^

"Skygods: The Fall of Pan Am" - Robert Gandt & "Hard Landing" - Thomas Petzinger

These two books need to be on everyone's required reading (anti-tool) list.

Last edited by Elliot; 02-24-2014 at 01:53 PM.

02-24-2014, 02:03 PM

#4992

Packrat

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Originally Posted by dalad

Just wait a minute. This guy is Tool of Infinity if that is true.

Now, that's funny!

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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer

Runner up Tool? Yup.

I always wonder if guys like that are simply cowards...afraid of the responsibilities involved in leading a crew and taking care of passengers.

02-24-2014, 02:07 PM

#4993

Packrat

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Originally Posted by filejw

Captain actual was started at Pan Am from the flying boat days.

Actually, it started in Naval Aviation when the long range seaplanes had multiple crews aboard. The "bridge" (flight deck) watches were relieved exactly the same way they were relieved aboard ships.

Pan Am just adopted procedures originated by the NC flight across the Atlantic in 1919, the NC-4 the only aircraft to make it all the way.

02-24-2014, 04:42 PM

#4994

Bluto

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dalad

Just wait a minute. This guy is Tool of Infinity if that is true.

I'm pretty certain "Tool of Eternity" would be more doctrinally correct verbiage.

02-24-2014, 05:31 PM

#4995

Boomer

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Originally Posted by Bluto

I'm pretty certain "Tool of Eternity" would be more doctrinally correct verbiage.

How about "Eternal Aviation Tool of the Simplest Kind"

02-24-2014, 09:33 PM

#4996

lowapproach

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Originally Posted by Packrat

Not to be a contrarian, but once you earn a title you should be addressed by it.

Someone will get this...

02-24-2014, 09:43 PM

#4997

Packrat

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Originally Posted by lowapproach

Someone will get this...

I have to admit, that's funny, Bob.

At least he wears the uniform correctly.

02-25-2014, 11:54 AM

#4998

bbhnpd

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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd

Yes, I went through initial training and I now have a 757/767 type with no restrictions. I could be a captain, but I am a first officer because others got here first. When I make captain, it will be due to time. The title isn't merit based, therefore, it isn't "earned."

The hell it isn't "merit" based or earned. At my former airlines you DID have to pass a rather through proficiency exam, both by the FAA and the Company. I can't speak for whatever fly by night you worked for that handed out the 4th stripe when it was simply your turn.

You choose to remain a FO because you are apparently unwilling to demonstrate your merit.

02-25-2014, 11:57 AM

#4999

SpeedyVagabond

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Originally Posted by Packrat

Some people are Captains. Some are fork lift drivers. I guess its all in the level of pride and professionalism they exhibit.

You can usually tell the difference by the way they wear their uniform.

Indeed. Too many forklift drivers although their ranks are small thank goodness.

Last edited by SpeedyVagabond; 02-25-2014 at 12:10 PM.

02-25-2014, 12:02 PM

#5000

CheapTrick

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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd

Yep, this "wisdom" ****es me off a little too. At my large airline, time gets you the opportunity to apply for the 4th stripe. However, they do not give it away. You are going to have to get past the gatekeepers who diligently make sure you have the goods to sit in the left seat. It is earned even if you are so good that you make it look easy. You weren't born good. You worked to get good. That means you earned it.