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Old 07-25-2013, 07:13 AM
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Regarding instant key the mike thing... when I'm flying with a guy who does that, when it's his leg, I go to the other extreme and sometimes swap freq's and simply do nothing for a while. It makes him squirm, as if we are going to flip inverted and auger in if we don't check in instantly.

Along those lines, sometimes you hear a guy saying "Center, ToolAir 123 at 350..." and if the response isn't immediate, he'll repeat, over and over, with 3 second pauses between.

Center, ToolAir 123 at 350... Center, ToolAir 123 at 350.... Center, ToolAir 123, how copy?

and you can tell he is going nuts because there's no response. Relax. You aren't going to crash. You're probably just a bit out of range.

It's annoying, though, when you wait a nice 5 seconds to ensure the freq is clear, and the instant you key the mike, you hear someone else doing it exactly at the same time.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:36 AM
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This one always drove me nuts:

Tower would say, "ABCXXX, cross 22R, Ground 21.9 on the other side."

The F/O would acknowledge the tower's transmission, then immediately switch over to Ground before I had even released the parking brake to cross the active runway.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyballgame
This one always drove me nuts:

Tower would say, "ABCXXX, cross 22R, Ground 21.9 on the other side."

The F/O would acknowledge the tower's transmission, then immediately switch over to Ground before I had even released the parking brake to cross the active runway.
And then if you don't switch to ground on the other side immediately, ground is screaming,"Where are you? I just gave you instructions? Were you not listening?"

Sometimes you can't win, but I agree with you for the most part.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:53 AM
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In those cases, I switch to ground when our momentum is such that we are definitely crossing the runway. Call it halfway across.

If tower is going to cancel your crossing, they've got to do it before you cross the line.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
In those cases, I switch to ground when our momentum is such that we are definitely crossing the runway. Call it halfway across.

If tower is going to cancel your crossing, they've got to do it before you cross the line.
I like it.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
Regarding instant key the mike thing... when I'm flying with a guy who does that, when it's his leg, I go to the other extreme and sometimes swap freq's and simply do nothing for a while. It makes him squirm, as if we are going to flip inverted and auger in if we don't check in instantly.
You should take it one step further..... I don't even key the mike, I just ident and let the controller call me! It's quite entertaining.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
In those cases, I switch to ground when our momentum is such that we are definitely crossing the runway. Call it halfway across.

If tower is going to cancel your crossing, they've got to do it before you cross the line.
Think I will stick with tower until clear, they may give me a heads up to an issue that may affect me....will get to ground when I'm on the other side.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:48 PM
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ASA seems to do this a ton. What is the hurry?!?


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Pilots who immediately begin talking on a new frequency without waiting a second to see if anyone else is already talking.

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Old 07-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO
Regarding instant key the mike thing... when I'm flying with a guy who does that, when it's his leg, I go to the other extreme and sometimes swap freq's and simply do nothing for a while. It makes him squirm, as if we are going to flip inverted and auger in if we don't check in instantly.

Along those lines, sometimes you hear a guy saying "Center, ToolAir 123 at 350..." and if the response isn't immediate, he'll repeat, over and over, with 3 second pauses between.

Center, ToolAir 123 at 350... Center, ToolAir 123 at 350.... Center, ToolAir 123, how copy?

and you can tell he is going nuts because there's no response. Relax. You aren't going to crash. You're probably just a bit out of range.

It's annoying, though, when you wait a nice 5 seconds to ensure the freq is clear, and the instant you key the mike, you hear someone else doing it exactly at the same time.
I think you meant "Delta's tool Air 123" ...by the way "how are the rides climbing out of 250 feet?"
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WalkOfShame
You should take it one step further..... I don't even key the mike, I just ident and let the controller call me! It's quite entertaining.
Win!! Will definitely have to try that going through Canada
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