Tool of the day
#4181
Tool of the day: Pilots who help clean the cabin.
We're highly trained professionals that should command respect and high compensation. Cleaning the cabin does nothing but give EVERYONE the impression that you should be and desire to be treated like an low income blue collar unskilled worker. It makes the FAs see you as equals and it makes the company see everyone involved as an overpaid aircraft cleaner.
Your job is to safely and skillfully fly airplanes, not be a janitor. Don't stoop to this level... every time you do, it lowers the bar for the rest of us and further strengthens the expectation of everyone else that pilots should and will do it.
We're highly trained professionals that should command respect and high compensation. Cleaning the cabin does nothing but give EVERYONE the impression that you should be and desire to be treated like an low income blue collar unskilled worker. It makes the FAs see you as equals and it makes the company see everyone involved as an overpaid aircraft cleaner.
Your job is to safely and skillfully fly airplanes, not be a janitor. Don't stoop to this level... every time you do, it lowers the bar for the rest of us and further strengthens the expectation of everyone else that pilots should and will do it.
#4182
Actually, I never expected a pilot to help tidy the cabin but it was a nice gesture. An even nicer gesture was when they asked if you needed anything from the terminal...food, coffee, etc. before they ran up to get it for themselves.
#4183
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Tool of the day: Pilots who help clean the cabin.
We're highly trained professionals that should command respect and high compensation. Cleaning the cabin does nothing but give EVERYONE the impression that you should be and desire to be treated like an low income blue collar unskilled worker. It makes the FAs see you as equals and it makes the company see everyone involved as an overpaid aircraft cleaner.
Your job is to safely and skillfully fly airplanes, not be a janitor. Don't stoop to this level... every time you do, it lowers the bar for the rest of us and further strengthens the expectation of everyone else that pilots should and will do it.
We're highly trained professionals that should command respect and high compensation. Cleaning the cabin does nothing but give EVERYONE the impression that you should be and desire to be treated like an low income blue collar unskilled worker. It makes the FAs see you as equals and it makes the company see everyone involved as an overpaid aircraft cleaner.
Your job is to safely and skillfully fly airplanes, not be a janitor. Don't stoop to this level... every time you do, it lowers the bar for the rest of us and further strengthens the expectation of everyone else that pilots should and will do it.
#4184
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And its a part of their job description because too many pilots decided they'd "help out" and do it. And now its an expected part of their employment. They've managed to turn themselves into aircraft cleaners.
#4185
He's got a point, though.
Yeah it's nice to help people. But FA's don't help me walk around at LGA in December, mechanics aren't there during the oral to explain things to me, etc.
When I was a new hire, a 727FE, I was asked to ride the brakes for a tow to another gate. Being a "team player", I was ready to help. CA said "That's not your job, it's theirs. If they need more mechanics, it'll be evident and the CO will hire more. And if something goes wrong, they'll hang you."
He was right.
Yeah it's nice to help people. But FA's don't help me walk around at LGA in December, mechanics aren't there during the oral to explain things to me, etc.
When I was a new hire, a 727FE, I was asked to ride the brakes for a tow to another gate. Being a "team player", I was ready to help. CA said "That's not your job, it's theirs. If they need more mechanics, it'll be evident and the CO will hire more. And if something goes wrong, they'll hang you."
He was right.
#4186
He's got a point, though.
Yeah it's nice to help people. But FA's don't help me walk around at LGA in December, mechanics aren't there during the oral to explain things to me, etc.
When I was a new hire, a 727FE, I was asked to ride the brakes for a tow to another gate. Being a "team player", I was ready to help. CA said "That's not your job, it's theirs. If they need more mechanics, it'll be evident and the CO will hire more. And if something goes wrong, they'll hang you."
He was right.
Yeah it's nice to help people. But FA's don't help me walk around at LGA in December, mechanics aren't there during the oral to explain things to me, etc.
When I was a new hire, a 727FE, I was asked to ride the brakes for a tow to another gate. Being a "team player", I was ready to help. CA said "That's not your job, it's theirs. If they need more mechanics, it'll be evident and the CO will hire more. And if something goes wrong, they'll hang you."
He was right.
#4187
While it's nice if someone helps out outside their job description, it's not necessary and as I've said I'd much prefer someone offering to pick up some food/beverage for those whose job it IS to tidy cabin, etc. By the same token, sometimes pilots are stuck during turns dealing with a mx issue or something else and can't grab stuff from the terminal. The FAs should offer. There's no "I" in team, after all!
When that CA said I'd get hung if something went wrong, he was absolutely right. A wingtip gets dinged, or someone gets hurt, and I'd be in the hot seat.
#4188
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#4189
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Or at least some sort of sticker that I can put on my flight bag.
#4190
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