Search

Notices
Hangar Talk For non-aviation-related discussion and aviation threads that don't belong elsewhere

Tool of the day

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-30-2013, 08:06 PM
  #4061  
Gets Weekends Off
 
biigD's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,763
Default

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Your buddy is acting tool-ish, too. Showing that documentation is required, uniform or not.
I agree. Sorry YLpilot - but your buddy was a tool for making that comment. He should have that documentation out and ready to go every time. I know it's hit or miss out there, but why put the Captain in the position to have to ask?

I'm not saying it warranted kicking your buddy off (although I personally think it was an effective way to make a point), but a little lesson on JS etiquette was deserved at a minimum.
biigD is offline  
Old 04-30-2013, 08:16 PM
  #4062  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,914
Default

Originally Posted by YLpilot
The DL MD88 CA who denied my buddy the jumpseat. The guy asked for his cert and medical along with his badge (he was in uniform) and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" Reply: "Son if you are going to be a smarta** you can find another ride." The FO did the whole mime a gun in his mouth schtick after this exchange. That's going to be a loooong 4 day.
The tool here was your buddy, not the DL CA. The response from the CA was spot on, and I envision it as being said spontaneously without missing a beat.
ShyGuy is offline  
Old 04-30-2013, 08:19 PM
  #4063  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,546
Default

I have to agree. While I happen to find it a bit OTT, and most captains will be happy with the JS pass and one's badge, the official requirement is for the JS rider to present his pass, his badge, his license, and his Medical. I always have them out when I ask for a JS, and I've been doing this for more than two decades now.

Your friend should have kept his mouth shut. He learned a life-lesson (hopefully).
450knotOffice is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 06:47 AM
  #4064  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Default

Originally Posted by biigD
I agree. Sorry YLpilot - but your buddy was a tool for making that comment. He should have that documentation out and ready to go every time. I know it's hit or miss out there, but why put the Captain in the position to have to ask?

I'm not saying it warranted kicking your buddy off (although I personally think it was an effective way to make a point), but a little lesson on JS etiquette was deserved at a minimum.
Yep. Especially if the guy in question was going to ride up front, or even if it was a possibility. Every time someone doesn't check all that is another fairly small risk but with severe consequences for one of the biggest and most necessary "perks" of the job. What's to gain by "keeping it cazh"? Sometimes the wrong people get that far. The document check could be the only way to catch it and it takes 10 seconds.

Props to the Captain for smacking down the little entitled smart alec with asymetrical buthurt. I hope he still would have let him ride if he got the hint, apologized and admitted his mistake though.
gloopy is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 07:16 AM
  #4065  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Boomer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,534
Default

Originally Posted by YLpilot
...and my buddy said jokingly "You want to see my motorcycle license too?" ...
First rule of jumpseating is never talk about jumpseating.

Second rule of jumpseating is have all your paperwork in your hand and if the Captain doesn't want it, he'll hand it right back (or wave it off).

Third rule of jumpseating is save the personality until the door is closed, you're off the gate, and you've had a chance to feel the tone of the crew.

Sounds like your buddy broke all three rules.
Boomer is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 07:28 AM
  #4066  
Runs with scissors
 
Timbo's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,730
Default

Originally Posted by Boomer
First rule of jumpseating is never talk about jumpseating.

Second rule of jumpseating is have all your paperwork in your hand and if the Captain doesn't want it, he'll hand it right back (or wave it off).

Third rule of jumpseating is save the personality until the door is closed, you're off the gate, and you've had a chance to feel the tone of the crew.

Sounds like your buddy broke all three rules.
I save the personality until we are above 10,000', then I open with, "You guys screwed me in the merger!".

Always a great ice breaker.
Timbo is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 07:41 AM
  #4067  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
Default

I think the tool is you YLpilot, just for trying to make the DL pilot look like a tool and the obvious reasons why your post totally backfired. Your bud was disrespectful of the CA and the HS privilege, I'm sure he learned the free of charge lesson.

The only thing I would have done different than the DL cap after the "motorcycle lic comment",
- yes son I need to see your mopped license- then show him the way out my AC.
Sailor is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 09:04 AM
  #4068  
Gets Weekends Off
 
RhinoPherret's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,026
Default

Originally Posted by Timbo
I save the personality until we are above 10,000', then I open with, "You guys screwed me in the merger!".

Always a great ice breaker.
LOL

Must make for a high JS attrition rate and/or lots of move-backs to the last row.
RhinoPherret is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 09:48 AM
  #4069  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Boomer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,534
Default

Originally Posted by Timbo
I save the personality until we are above 10,000', then I open with, "You guys screwed me in the merger!".

Always a great ice breaker.
"Hi, I'm Boomer from Comair. I have an autographed picture of JC Lawson in my flight case and I have RJDC tattooed across my lower back. How are things with you Prima Donnas these days?"

This works all the time, 60% of the time.
Boomer is offline  
Old 05-01-2013, 10:18 AM
  #4070  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 107
Default

A legitimate Ell Oh Ell on this side of the keyboard. Nicely done.

Last edited by Alterbridge; 05-01-2013 at 10:32 AM. Reason: spelling
Alterbridge is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Elvis90
Military
2
11-11-2010 09:25 AM
meloveboeing
Regional
5
10-02-2010 07:47 AM
kc135driver
United
119
08-24-2010 08:30 AM
exerauflyboy5
Flight Schools and Training
15
02-18-2009 08:29 PM
Busdriver
JetBlue
70
01-16-2006 10:32 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices