Tool of the day
10-01-2012, 07:24 AM
#2871
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 216
One guys decides to slow down and go around a buildup and everyone else inbound to EWR has to enter holding? Seems unlikely. I, on the other hand, hate flying with guys who insist on flying through big puffy clouds while still up in the teens just because they're "not painting"' while all the people in the back get the snot knocked out of them.
It's not about being instrument rated, it's about doing a little extra not to scare the crap out of the people riding behind you who pay your salary. Everyone here can fly through a cloud as well as you can, superstar. That's not the point.
It's not about being instrument rated, it's about doing a little extra not to scare the crap out of the people riding behind you who pay your salary. Everyone here can fly through a cloud as well as you can, superstar. That's not the point.
10-01-2012, 02:22 PM
#2872
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 737
When he says the cheat word, he's saying "don't bother asking for a deviation, it's going to be negligible."
Do you ask for a deviation for a 100 yard swerve, every time?
10-01-2012, 06:33 PM
#2873
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
The PNCL guys 2 days ago with the stuck mic coming out of JFK about 4pm. Not only did you get the mic stuck on Ground, Tower, And departure, but we enjoyed hearing how you felt about AA on ground, about how you can change the takeoff weight and get different N1 settings from the fedec when on tower and your mythology to doing climb checks on departure freq. I am sure that go around on tower, and the stop on take offs when you were on departures were very appreciated.
22min http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...2012-1930Z.mp3
22min http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kj...2012-1930Z.mp3
Last edited by lakehouse; 10-01-2012 at 06:50 PM.
10-01-2012, 06:35 PM
#2874
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
288 pages of pure gold!
I didn't go through all of them so I don't know if these have been covered. Some of these are aircraft specific, but I'm sure everyone can relate:
The tool that asks if I'm going to be serving drinks on this flight.
The tool that talks on his cell during the briefing
The tool FA on Expressjet who, because our airline doesn't fly jets, leaned into the cockpit and said to the Captain, "I guess they're just letting anyone jumpseat these days"
The ULTRA tool SkyWest pilot who gets on our company frequency, hears the animal noises and says, "This is why you guys don't get jobs at SkyWest."
I didn't go through all of them so I don't know if these have been covered. Some of these are aircraft specific, but I'm sure everyone can relate:
The tool that asks if I'm going to be serving drinks on this flight.
The tool that talks on his cell during the briefing
The tool FA on Expressjet who, because our airline doesn't fly jets, leaned into the cockpit and said to the Captain, "I guess they're just letting anyone jumpseat these days"
The ULTRA tool SkyWest pilot who gets on our company frequency, hears the animal noises and says, "This is why you guys don't get jobs at SkyWest."
10-02-2012, 08:01 AM
#2876
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,434
I think the most pervasive useless PA-ism has got to be visibility. I hear it all the time from guys who give an otherwise concise, informative PA. "Weather at the destination, calm winds, clear skies, good visibility, a temperature of XX degrees..."
I get that we're just reading it right off the ATIS, but do you think the average passenger gives two craps about the visibility? Unless it's a CATII down to minimums it probably won't affect their drive home. I feel like if you're going to give them the visibility you might as well tell them the altimeter setting because they probably care about as much. Most captains I've mentioned it to just laugh and agree that they have no idea why they say it.
"At this time" is the other one that drives me nuts. The airport is the only place you'll hear it and you can seriously hear it 9 times before the door closes. Have you ever sat down at home and said, "Alright kids, at this time we're going to eat dinner." "At this time, I'd like to ask that you take out the trash."
I get that we're just reading it right off the ATIS, but do you think the average passenger gives two craps about the visibility? Unless it's a CATII down to minimums it probably won't affect their drive home. I feel like if you're going to give them the visibility you might as well tell them the altimeter setting because they probably care about as much. Most captains I've mentioned it to just laugh and agree that they have no idea why they say it.
"At this time" is the other one that drives me nuts. The airport is the only place you'll hear it and you can seriously hear it 9 times before the door closes. Have you ever sat down at home and said, "Alright kids, at this time we're going to eat dinner." "At this time, I'd like to ask that you take out the trash."
10-02-2012, 08:06 AM
#2877
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,756
When I see we have a DH crew in back, in uniform, I be sure my PA includes the fact that...
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
10-02-2012, 08:31 AM
#2878
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: 777
Posts: 495
Yeah me too. If there's DH guys or JSers, I'll include a little something about "wind gusty out of the north, good visibility, 66 degrees. They have us landing on 36L today, so the taxi in will be a little longer than usual to gate echo 27"... Etc etc. Those little details can make sure a DH crew knows about possibly 10-15 extra mins of flight time, taxi, whatever else.. Call me a tool all you want, but I sure like it when I'm DH or JS and they say something.
10-02-2012, 08:53 AM
#2879
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 2,232
When I see we have a DH crew in back, in uniform, I be sure my PA includes the fact that...
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
"These extra crew members you see in the cabin both used to work at NASA, in the mapping dept. and they can identify every city, town, lake and National Park, from the air. Be sure to ask them, "What lake is THAT?" or Where are we now?" as often as you like, they Really Love the challenge!"
10-02-2012, 09:33 AM
#2880
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,756
And on taxi in, after one particularly -stiff- landing...
"Ladies and Gentlemen, about that landing, it's not MY fault, and it's not YOUR fault, that was the Asphalt!"
"Ladies and Gentlemen, about that landing, it's not MY fault, and it's not YOUR fault, that was the Asphalt!"
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