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RhinoBallAuto 09-17-2018 09:30 PM

I'm pretty sure he was wearing his hat though...

Turbosina 09-17-2018 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2676279)
I'm pretty sure he was wearing his hat though...

Sounded like the very senior mainline CA who I witnessed exploding into an absolute tirade at the lead FA over the fact that his crew meal was "improperly spiced" (I'm sorry, you can't make this stuff up) and insisted that he was 'sending the meal back.' As if he was at the French Laundry...

Ducttape 09-18-2018 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2676227)
This Delta pilot for losing it over a RJ that's exiting the runway. TOTD points for losing it on the controller (if ground controller would actually control), on the RJ pilots (if they could be more professional), and asking for a phone number.

"Lighten up francis" = settle down Capn Happy



The RJ is simply exiting the runway with most likely another aircraft on short final behind him. The controller was absolutely right to say "well that's an exiting aircraft, so don't hit him, and taxi to the gate."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqQ4lfWz3M

Very funny...love the last word "I wish the RJ guys would be a little more professional"...haha. I guess Skywest should have stayed on the runway until DAL was able to taxi by.:rolleyes:

And this is why nobody can fly through ATL airspace without "guard games." Some of these Delta guys really bring it on themselves with toolish events like this.

This is why we cant have nice things.

Rahlifer 09-18-2018 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Ducttape (Post 2676483)
Very funny...love the last word "I wish the RJ guys would be a little more professional"...haha. I guess Skywest should have stayed on the runway until DAL was able to taxi by.:rolleyes:

And this is why nobody can fly through ATL airspace without "guard games." Some of these Delta guys really bring it on themselves with toolish events like this.

This is why we cant have nice things.

To be fair, the dumbass rj kids probably should not come to a dead stop in front of another taxiing aircraft. Try that in ORD and see what kind of butt-chewing you’ll get from ground.

tomgoodman 09-18-2018 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Ducttape (Post 2676483)
This is why we cant have nice things.

Welcome to APC. Ten posts are required before you can have nice things. :p

Grumbletrousers 09-18-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2676489)
To be fair, the dumbass rj kids probably should not come to a dead stop in front of another taxiing aircraft. Try that in ORD and see what kind of butt-chewing you’ll get from ground.

You should brush up on your AIM knowledge.

rickair7777 09-18-2018 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 2676489)
To be fair, the dumbass rj kids probably should not come to a dead stop in front of another taxiing aircraft. Try that in ORD and see what kind of butt-chewing you’ll get from ground.

That's cool until you hit something while taxing without a clearance. I know how it is, but be careful. The contributing factor will be normalization of deviation by jerk controllers. The cause will be PD.

A Squared 09-18-2018 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2676577)
That's cool until you hit something while taxing without a clearance.


Sounded to me like they had a clearance. What is the source for the position and movement of the airplane icons in the animation?

ShyGuy 09-18-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2676607)
Sounded to me like they had a clearance. What is the source for the position and movement of the airplane icons in the animation?

Are you trying to defend the TOTD in that video?

freezingflyboy 09-18-2018 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2676607)
Sounded to me like they had a clearance. What is the source for the position and movement of the airplane icons in the animation?

Assuming those positions in the animation are accurate, it seems like the RJ took longer than necessary to proceed once they recieved a taxi clearance to their gate. But the Delta guy is still undoubtedly the tool here for losing it like that over an aircraft not moving as "professionally" as he would like.

And I have to agree, the vocal resemblance to Captain Happy is uncanny.

A Squared 09-18-2018 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2676663)
Are you trying to defend the TOTD in that video?


Ummm, no. Are you trying to make up stupid **** from thin air?

John Carr 09-18-2018 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2676715)
Assuming those positions in the animation are accurate, it seems like the RJ took longer than necessary to proceed once they recieved a taxi clearance to their gate.

Under that assumption and, sure.

But between clearing a runway, being close to another runway intersection, etc who's to say they weren't just being cautious when they say an aircraft so close to them? We're they simply taking pause to verify the taxi route, etc? And I haven't researched, but was it night time?

Can't really fault them either way.

And since his panties are so twisted, could you imagine if it was an AA airplane :eek:



Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2676715)
I have to agree, the vocal resemblance to Captain Happy is uncanny.

The attitude for sure does. Maybe it's the recording, but the ATL incident CA happy sounds a little younger, MSP it sounds like a guy about to stroke out. Who knows, maybe years of being CA Happy did that to him....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_HCZ1YBaQo

freezingflyboy 09-18-2018 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2676737)
Under that assumption and, sure.

But between clearing a runway, being close to another runway intersection, etc who's to say they weren't just being cautious when they say an aircraft so close to them? We're they simply taking pause to verify the taxi route, etc? And I haven't researched, but was it night time?

Can't really fault them either way.

And since his panties are so twisted, could you imagine if it was an AA airplane :eek:

Oh without a doubt! I didn't mean to imply fault on the exiting RJ. I don't think anyone can find fault with a crew taking an extra minute to make sure they are in the right place and going the right way. That's why our Capt. Snappy here wins the TOTD award.

John Carr 09-18-2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2676739)
Oh without a doubt! I didn't mean to imply fault on the exiting RJ. I don't think anyone can find fault with a crew taking an extra minute to make sure they are in the right place and going the right way. That's why our Capt. Snappy here wins the TOTD award.

I wonder if CA Happy and CA Hollywood know each other?

One has flown war time missions during peace time and one creates war time situations during peace time.

ShyGuy 09-18-2018 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2676737)

And since his panties are so twisted, could you imagine if it was an AA airplane :eek:




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Here's an AA one, this guy gets a TOTD as well:

"Damn regional jets!"


"P*ss off, man"


hahahaha


RJ wanted to wait a little bit longer due to wx/storms/windshear, and even when windshear alerts were gone he wanted 2 minutes. AA wanted him out of the way and just go. Call them out, damn regional jets, and once it's his turn to take the runway, the AA guy screws up a simple readback to line up and wait.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjq2TcbBVo

A Squared 09-18-2018 04:14 PM

Is the "Captain Happy" bit a reference to an actual person? What's the backstory?

Disregard, Google was my friend.

ShyGuy 09-24-2018 06:52 PM

This guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0

Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.

1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"

2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk

3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."



If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?

TCASTESTOK 09-24-2018 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2680352)
This guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0

Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.

1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"

2:15 sounds like hand slamming the desk

3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."



If you're arguing 4 minutes with a gate agent about getting on a flight, you already lost. If it's a DH, call scheduling and get them to fix it. If it's nonrev or jumpseating, walk away and take the next flight. What does one hope to accomplish by arguing?




I took the video and took out the background noise, this is what I could make out to the best of my ability.

If anyone else wants to take a crack at it just download the audio from the video into the sound editor of your choice. I used audacity with a treble cut EQ.
***THIS ARE NOT EXACT QUOTES IT IS WHAT I COULD MAKE OUT AFTER EQUALIZATION***




agent; I have to check. I tried to put you on the standby list.
CA: I wanna wait to see if I can get on. Im skipping you guys.


agent; I cant. I tried to put you on the standby list, I cannot put you on the standby list.



customer: hes in public for god sakes show some respect man. your a pilot dude you work for delta show some respect.


agent; i turn my back for...{unintelligble}


pilot; i wish everyone at skywest had to [sounds like "deal with this for a week"]



pilot: well take a hike?


2:11 [sound similar to hand slamming on desk]


pilot: let me know my options i need you to help me


2:40 pilot: ill take a walk, ill...



pilot: got two of em (possibly referring to number of jumpseats on aircraft)


pilot: well {maybe or then] ill get lost thats what ill do.



3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
--from shyguys post


also going onto SGs post she says



agent:I am doing my job the way the company tells me...no it doe not work {like that?}
then gate agent says


that is not allowed...

But still regardless of what I heard on the recording its still def a TOTD move. Remember there are always other flights. THIS is why commuter clauses exist. So crews dont argue or berate gate agents who are just doing their jobs.

Guppydriver95 09-25-2018 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2680383)
I took the video and took out the background noise, this is what I could make out to the best of my ability.

If anyone else wants to take a crack at it just download the audio from the video into the sound editor of your choice. I used audacity with a treble cut EQ.
***THIS ARE NOT EXACT QUOTES IT IS WHAT I COULD MAKE OUT AFTER EQUALIZATION***




agent; I have to check. I tried to put you on the standby list.
CA: I wanna wait to see if I can get on. Im skipping you guys.


agent; I cant. I tried to put you on the standby list, I cannot put you on the standby list.



customer: hes in public for god sakes show some respect man. your a pilot dude you work for delta show some respect.


agent; i turn my back for...{unintelligble}


pilot; i wish everyone at skywest had to [sounds like "deal with this for a week"]



pilot: well take a hike?


2:11 [sound similar to hand slamming on desk]


pilot: let me know my options i need you to help me


2:40 pilot: ill take a walk, ill...



pilot: got two of em (possibly referring to number of jumpseats on aircraft)


pilot: well {maybe or then] ill get lost thats what ill do.



3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."
--from shyguys post


also going onto SGs post she says



agent:I am doing my job the way the company tells me...no it doe not work {like that?}
then gate agent says


that is not allowed...

But still regardless of what I heard on the recording its still def a TOTD move. Remember there are always other flights. THIS is why commuter clauses exist. So crews dont argue or berate gate agents who are just doing their jobs.


This is why the Captain should “make the walk” to check for Jumpseaters and standbys. Had that happened, this would have been a non event. Captain comes out, sees pilot, directs agent to print Jumpseat authorization card, case closed.

Keizer Soze 09-25-2018 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 2680606)
This is why the Captain should “make the walk” to check for Jumpseaters and standbys. Had that happened, this would have been a non event. Captain comes out, sees pilot, directs agent to print Jumpseat authorization card, case closed.

This....

I have a personal pre-flight checklist which includes, but not limited to:

1) Pre-flight pee (or potty for the easily offended) Check...
2) Coffee, tea, or soda...
3) A walk up the jet way to look for any pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, or other non-rev waiting for a seat...
4) To say goodbye to the gate agents and thank them for what they do...

TCASTESTOK 09-25-2018 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Keizer Soze (Post 2680725)
This....

I have a personal pre-flight checklist which includes, but not limited to:

1) Pre-flight pee (or potty for the easily offended) Check...
2) Coffee, tea, or soda...
3) A walk up the jet way to look for any pilots, flight attendants, dispatchers, or other non-rev waiting for a seat...
4) To say goodbye to the gate agents and thank them for what they do...

The only way you could tell if there were any dispatchers trying to jump is well they dont really have a uniform, they just dress business casual with their id lanyard and passport.

Peacock 09-25-2018 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2680728)
The only way you could tell if there were any dispatchers trying to jump is well they dont really have a uniform, they just dress business casual with their id lanyard and passport.

Why are you trying to explain that to him

8ballfreight 09-25-2018 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2680352)
This guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjqieb6R_0

Despite the video title, it's not a Delta pilot. It's hard to make what he's saying, but it basically looks like he isn't getting on the flight.

1:42 "this is frustrating, I've never left you guys behind when you're in the back"

3:52 "that's an MD80, right? "No, that's an Airbus." and then more arguing, with her finally saying "I'm just trying to do my job."

10 to 1 that this is Delta "weight restricted" BS issues we have all experienced. BS gets a pilot to act this way. "I've never left guys behind when there are seats in the back".

Personally a Delta agent blocked me from taking one of many many wide open seats due to weight restrictions on a 3 hour A320 flight with no need for an alternate or enroute deviation. Maybe a motor was broke.
The other guy gave the agent a little attitude but I walked away. The Delta pilot that did make the weight cut said "good luck"...captain didn't come up.

sailingfun 09-25-2018 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by 8ballfreight (Post 2680745)
10 to 1 that this is Delta "weight restricted" BS issues we have all experienced. BS gets a pilot to act this way. "I've never left guys behind when there are seats in the back".

Personally a Delta agent blocked me from taking one of many many wide open seats due to weight restrictions on a 3 hour A320 flight with no need for an alternate or enroute deviation. Maybe a motor was broke.
The other guy gave the agent a little attitude but I walked away. The Delta pilot that did make the weight cut said "good luck"...captain didn't come up.

If it was SLC with high temps and one of the old A320’s not only possible but probable. They are weight restricted all the time.

TiredSoul 09-25-2018 04:44 PM

A free seat is a free seat, I fail to see how you can claim a ‘right’ to what is a privilege.

badflaps 09-26-2018 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2680846)
If it was SLC with high temps and one of the old A320’s not only possible but probable. They are weight restricted all the time.

Never thought I would hear that from you.:)

iHateAMR 09-26-2018 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2680846)
If it was SLC with high temps and one of the old A320’s not only possible but probable. They are weight restricted all the time.

The video poster wrote EWR-ATL.

TCASTESTOK 09-26-2018 04:13 PM

TOTD
The FA who allegedly yelled at parents because their baby was crying. Even the CA apologized.


Mom claims United flight attendant said it was 'absolutely unacceptable' for baby to cry on flight - Story | WNYW

Ditka 09-26-2018 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2681489)
TOTD
The FA who allegedly yelled at parents because their baby was crying. Even the CA apologized.


Mom claims United flight attendant said it was 'absolutely unacceptable' for baby to cry on flight - Story | WNYW

#thathappened

I tend not to believe the stories that aren’t really believable

Dolphinflyer 09-26-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2681489)
TOTD
The FA who allegedly yelled at parents because their baby was crying. Even the CA apologized.


Mom claims United flight attendant said it was 'absolutely unacceptable' for baby to cry on flight - Story | WNYW


And there is this from the new Mommy,

“Bala says she was “beyond infuriated," at the flight attendant's response. She purchased in flight WIFI for $28.99, so she could air her grievances in real time on her Facebook page. ”


I’m sure we heard an exact recap of events.

Deathwish 09-26-2018 07:46 PM

#BalaSays is going to be a new trend around here, I can feel it.

rickair7777 09-26-2018 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ditka (Post 2681496)
#thathappened

I tend not to believe the stories that aren’t really believable

Plausible on express.

TiredSoul 09-27-2018 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2681534)
And there is this from the new Mommy,

“Bala says she was “beyond infuriated," at the flight attendant's response. She purchased in flight WIFI for $28.99, so she could air her grievances in real time on her Facebook page

My snowflake-o-meter just pegged.

It’s PUBLIC
Transportation so it would be nice if you could control your kids.

Yes, I don’t have any.

LNL76 09-27-2018 04:00 AM

Not taking sides either way as I wasn't there, BUT 8 month olds are not controllable. And, yes, I raised 3 (including twins who were colicky.)

rickair7777 09-27-2018 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2681693)
My snowflake-o-meter just pegged.

It’s PUBLIC
Transportation so it would be nice if you could control your kids.

Yes, I don’t have any.

You should be able to prevent 2-4 year olds from running up and the aisle. But you can't prevent infants from crying if they're inclined to.

Hetman 09-27-2018 11:31 AM

There is more than one way to skin a cat...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-dr...ant-cops-plea/

ShyGuy 09-27-2018 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2681699)
Not taking sides either way as I wasn't there, BUT 8 month olds are not controllable. And, yes, I raised 3 (including twins who were colicky.)

I have 2 and they weren’t too bad flying at 8 months. The first one was great. I think people realize babies will cry, ear pressure changes, etc.

It’s what the parents don’t do that gets other passengers ticked off. I’ve been on flights where the kid is wailin and neither parent is doing anything. At least try! Tryi to soothe the baby, feed, hold them, etc. But for parents who just sit there and let the kid cry without attempting anything, booo.

TiredSoul 09-27-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2681764)
You should be able to prevent 2-4 year olds from running up and the aisle. But you can't prevent infants from crying if they're inclined to.

Rub their ears and their jawline.
They’ll cry at the same time, pressurization changes.
They haven’t learned yet how to do the valsalva.

RhinoBallAuto 09-27-2018 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2682121)
Rub their ears and their jawline.
They’ll cry at the same time, pressurization changes.
They haven’t learned yet how to do the valsalva.

Nursing works well. Feed them during the decent.

rickair7777 09-27-2018 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2682121)
Rub their ears and their jawline.
They’ll cry at the same time, pressurization changes.
They haven’t learned yet how to do the valsalva.

Yes, all parents know to give them a bottle or boob on the way down. But sometimes they cry just because.


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