Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2644936)

It seems as if you guys work at airlines where the entire crew stays together. We don’t. Between the 5-7 of us there could be between 2-7 different pairings. We also usually say at different hotels from the FAs in the same city so it’s common to split and head for our private car and they do their own thing to get to their hotel with the lead FA being in charge if they are staying together.

In the few places we do stay at the hotel together it’s usually a Crew base so often they are going home or splitting up. It’s also usually a large city and the van runs on a schedule. In the situation where the FA gave me a hard time for not waiting I had no idea whether she was based there or overnighting. And it’s the same hotel in the same pickup location running on the same schedule it has been for years. Why do I need to babysit to the pickup site and then ride together to the sign in sheet. She (they) know where to go and we aren’t flying together tomorrow. I don’t walk with them to the Crew parking bus after a trip or pick them up at home before. What makes this any different?

And what camaraderie? Ever sat on a hotel van with a bunch of FAs complaining about passengers and the latest screwing by scheduling all in front of the driver and other riders. It’s embarrasing. I’d rather not. If we make it to the same bus great. If it’s on demand of course I won’t leave without and I’ll ask so make sure they are going to the hotel. If it’s on a schedule, see ya, I have no idea where they are going. Different FAs literally every leg. She was just looking for drama.

I also know I’m not in the minority because when I was a commuter it was always offline and by the time I got to the front to thank the pilots for the ride they were long gone almost always.

Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 2645781)

Millenials: those that complain about them the most...PROBABLY RASIED 'EM! :eek:

Originally Posted by CrispyBacon (Post 2645815)

Boomers. The single most narcissistic, parasitic, self-centered, megalomaniac generation this country has ever seen. The whole world will be a better place when they are all dead.

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2645835)

Wow... major issues here, I’d say.

Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2645909)

He's not wrong, every major social, financial and/or geo-political problem can be placed on the boomers.

I also agree that there is no reason to wait on the f/as especially if they are going to a different hotel. A 737-9 or a 321 can take 20+ mins to deplane.

Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2645909)

He's not wrong, every major social, financial and/or geo-political problem can be placed on the boomers.

I also agree that there is no reason to wait on the f/as especially if they are going to a different hotel. A 737-9 or a 321 can take 20+ mins to deplane.

Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2645920)

It’s someone else’s fault and you’re so much more clever and are going to fix it all. Thanks for showing up. A round of applause and a selfie for you. And a participation trophy.

Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2645920)

It’s someone else’s fault and you’re so much more clever and are going to fix it all.

Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2645920)

It’s someone else’s fault and you’re so much more clever and are going to fix it all. Thanks for showing up. A round of applause and a selfie for you. And a participation trophy.

Originally Posted by Poser765 (Post 2645852)

Is that comment really that much worse than the pretty consistent millennial hating that goes on around here?

Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2645919)

I always wait for my pax to get off. I’m still the Captain(was) and they’re onboard my ac. If that effects our show time due to rest, that’s an issue for management. If a pax needs a wheelchair and one isn’t there, I wait.

Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2645956)

My responsibility ends when the parking brake is set and the engines are shut down.

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2646008)

Can you post the provision contained in your company manual that verifies your statement in the definition of the duty and responsibility of a captain, or first officer???

I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual:rolleyes:. Hey maybe our DO can insert that language into our FOM. Until then, my duties and responsibilities to my crewmembers are in affect from the time I report for duty until I sign off back at base.

Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2646074)

Actually at b6 we don’t have to be there for
Boarding or deplaning. If the plane is powered down (over two hours) or just secured we are free to leave. They wanted to start boarding without us being there so they put that in there about deplaning as well.

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2646008)

Can you post the provision contained in your company manual that verifies your statement in the definition of the duty and responsibility of a captain, or first officer???

I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual:rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2646130)

Why would the FAA care what a company puts in it's manual about how company employees interact while not aboard the aircraft? Once the the passengers are, deplaned, the logbook signed, the aircraft is powered down and transferred to the ground crews and the crew is in the terminal, walking away, why would the FAA care if the GOM instructs them to all hold hands to the hotel, or scatter to the 4 winds? The FAA has no compelling interest nor jurisdiction at that point.

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2646157)

The FAA does have a vested interest that crewmembers are in compliance, with their duties and responsibilities, I/A/W the Company’s GOM.

Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers (Post 2644534)

Which overnight?

Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 2646336)

ATW. filler

Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2647049)

The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"

We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.

Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2647049)

The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"

We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2647092)

Oh brother. Slow day in the thread. 🙄

Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2647049)

The AA guys behind us in ORD today. Ground told us to hold and give way to two incoming aircraft. The AA guy behind us; "We dont stop in ORD you guys!"

We do when were told to give way to traffic you tool.

Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2647600)

Odd, usually AA guys are moving so slow you can’t tell I’d theyre stopped or not anyway

Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2647600)

Odd, usually AA guys are moving so slow you can’t tell I’d theyre stopped or not anyway

Originally Posted by Simpsons (Post 2647600)

Odd, usually AA guys are moving so slow you can’t tell I’d theyre stopped or not anyway

Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2648498)

Mainline guys including AA seem to be moving the same speed that I remember 30 years ago. Air Wis RJ's used to do the same speed as the others then.

Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2648824)

The Captains who leave their seat to go deal with an unruly pax and end up on the news. The best thing you can do is STAY ON THE FLIGHT DECK and let the gate agent handle the situation. Whats gonna bring more notoriety to the company, a pax being thrown off by a gate agent or a pax being throw off by THE CAPTAIN.

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2648829)

You will respect my captain authorita!!!!

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2648558)

Had a commute to catch once and asked ORD ground if we could pass AA on the parallel coming from 27R. He chuckled, said yep and I made my commute :)

Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 2651291)

Tool of the century

Airports that have tiny stalls you cant bring bag in with and poop. Im not leaving bag outside. No pooping for me I guess.

Originally Posted by Rolf (Post 2651679)

Flensr, that was an attempt at humor. Loosen the grip a little, “brother”.

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2651743)

If my roller won’t fit in the regular stall or I have to change clothes then I’m utilizing the family or handicapped bathroom/stalls.

Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2651392)

Ever try pooping in a CRJ-200 lav? I still can't believe they put a row of seats right next to the door.