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velosnow 05-03-2018 08:40 PM

The captain on the last flight of the night commute home the other week who couldn't give a rat's arse to help me out with a ride home. Looked me straight in the eye and shrugged as the gate agent said no. Karma man. Karma.

WHACKMASTER 05-03-2018 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2585895)
The captain on the last flight of the night commute home the other week who couldn't give a rat's arse to help me out with a ride home. Looked me straight in the eye and shrugged as the gate agent said no. Karma man. Karma.

What a spineless d!ck!!! I hope you get to repay the favor to him in one form or another someday. Be sure to shrug your shoulder and smile.

tunes 05-04-2018 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2585895)
The captain on the last flight of the night commute home the other week who couldn't give a rat's arse to help me out with a ride home. Looked me straight in the eye and shrugged as the gate agent said no. Karma man. Karma.

i feel like this story is missing context

velosnow 05-04-2018 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2586320)
i feel like this story is missing context

Not really, ran up last minute wasn't really expecting to get on (we all know might as well try until it pulls away) but since the captain was at the gate thought he might at least feign an interest in helping me out. Nada.

captjns 05-04-2018 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2586392)
Not really, ran up last minute wasn't really expecting to get on (we all know might as well try until it pulls away) but since the captain was at the gate thought he might at least feign an interest in helping me out. Nada.

Hmmm.. Not expecting to get on... How last minute were you? Did the crew have their numbers? Were all pax and nov-revs, if any onboard with the main entry way ready to be closed? Last leg of a six leg day? Was the captain giving line training? Did the captain want to finish the day to catch a flight to his home town for his days off? Were you worth the captain for being written up for a delay so you could get on his flight?

File a report with your company’s jump seat coordinator if you think you have a legitimate gripe.

A Squared 05-04-2018 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2586392)
Not really, ran up last minute wasn't really expecting to get on (we all know might as well try until it pulls away) but since the captain was at the gate thought he might at least feign an interest in helping me out. Nada.

Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.

m3113n1a1 05-04-2018 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2586614)
Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.

Wrong. Didn't you know the world revolves around velosnow?

/s

A Squared 05-04-2018 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2586648)
Wrong. Didn't you know the world revolves around velosnow?

/s

It does? Oh, that changes everything. My bad!!! ;)

rickair7777 05-05-2018 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2586614)
Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.

Yeah he isn't really standing on firm ground on this one. But as a CA, I would have gotten the guy on if mathematically feasible, even if it took a delay.

METO Guido 05-05-2018 05:36 AM

Time lost is $. Just a matter of degree. Or the willingness to notice.

A Squared 05-05-2018 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2586704)
Yeah he isn't really standing on firm ground on this one. But as a CA, I would have gotten the guy on if mathematically feasible, even if it took a delay.

That's fine, and I too have taken delays and such to get a jumpseater on when I could have more easily not done so. It's a huge leap from doing that out of your own good will; to you having an obligation to do that, and you're "tool of the day" if you don't.

velosnow 05-05-2018 07:40 AM

Whew, tough crowd. It has far less to do with me not getting on than his meek response that made it 'toolish'. A simple, "hey man sorry wish we could help you out" would've sufficed.

I've done all manner of things to get folks on over the years and the two times I couldn't I apologized and told them exactly why. One of which response qualifies for ultimate tool label but we'll save that story for another day.

So if I'm the tool here for expecting this guy to at least offer some semblance of empathy or professional courtesy about a fellow pilot getting home so be it.

SeamusTheHound 05-16-2018 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2572526)
Seems like ancestor worship. By getting a seat in the back I've basically already been given permission to ride along. Just seems like an unnecessary practice in this day and age.

TOTD!!!

Read up on Captain’s Authority how you got that jumpseat in the first place.

TCASTESTOK 05-16-2018 09:53 PM

TOTD

The CFI at ERAU who embarrassed the profession by flying an RJ displaying poor airmanship by not only stalling once but twice in a row and in general being an embarrassment to the profession.

OOfff 05-16-2018 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2595658)
TOTD

The CFI at ERAU who embarrassed the profession by ...being an embarrassment to the profession.

Dat sentence structure doe

Fr8Thrust 05-17-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2595658)
TOTD

The CFI at ERAU who embarrassed the profession by flying an RJ displaying poor airmanship by not only stalling once but twice in a row and in general being an embarrassment to the profession.

That person is actually a former WB Captain for a Legacy. Probably never flew a CRJ before hopping in to give a demonstration.

A Squared 05-17-2018 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust (Post 2595742)
That person is actually a former WB Captain for a Legacy.


I got to say I'm a little skeptical she was a Wide Body captain. A google of her name brings up bios saying she was at Hawaiian. She claims to have flown the DC-10. A poster in the other thread said that she was furloughed after 9/11 which seems consistent with her various Bios online. I'll concede that don't know the extent of Hawaiian's furlough (s?) in the early 2000's, but furloughing all the way up to widebody captain would be pretty deep furloughs at any airline. Also, multiple Bios put her flight experience at "more than 5,000 hours" which is another way of saying "Less than 6,000". Just how fast were DC-10 upgrades at Hawaiian in the 1990's ?




Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust (Post 2595742)
Probably never flew a CRJ before hopping in to give a demonstration


I'd say that was more a commentary on her judgment and ego than a valid excuse for the performance.





Interesting phenomenon: A pilot query on the FAA's database shows no pilot with her name, and no female pilot with her last name. Not sure what to make of that. AFAIK, you can decline to have your address listed in publicly accessible part of the FAA records, but you can't opt out completely. FOIA and all that. There was a big thing about that a decade ago or thereabouts.

A Squared 05-17-2018 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2595776)
Interesting phenomenon: A pilot query on the FAA's database shows no pilot with her name, and no female pilot with her last name. Not sure what to make of that.


In a 2008 article, she was going by by the name Michelle Summers-Halleran. FAA doesn't show any pilots with the last name Summers-Halleran, however, there is a Michelle Summers living in Port Orange. Shows a Lear Type rating (Bio said she flew Lears) MES rating (Bio says she flew Twin Otters on floats) FE turbojet, which would be consistent with Hawaiian new-hire, but no DC-10 rating (or any other Wide Body aircraft)



I'm going with, no, she wasn't a Wide Body captain anywhere.

rickair7777 05-17-2018 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2595798)
I'm going with, no, she wasn't a Wide Body captain anywhere.


Common enough for flight academy staff to puff up their credentials to impress the noobs. No surprise there.

bizzlepilot 05-17-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2595935)
Common enough for flight academy staff to puff up their credentials to impress the noobs. No surprise there.

That's terrible. I have no experience with ERAU or flight academies but that is troubling.

captjns 05-17-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2595935)
Common enough for flight academy staff to puff up their credentials to impress the noobs. No surprise there.

ERAU may have vetted their alumnist... but, clearl, ynot her plan of action. It’s apparent ERAU have an elective course on how to claw one’s way to the bottom?

A Squared 05-17-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2595935)
Common enough for flight academy staff to puff up their credentials to impress the noobs. No surprise there.


Well, to be fair, I didn't see anywhere that *she* claimed to have been a widebody captain. That was from the poster above. No idea where he got that notion.

stis202 05-17-2018 03:01 PM

Had her for a class way back. She was a WX professor. Said she only flew lears at the time. Didn’t have much experience from what I got from it but my memory is foggy.

Fr8Thrust 05-18-2018 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2595798)
I'm going with, no, she wasn't a Wide Body captain anywhere.

I stand corrected, she was a Lear CA, and a DC10 FO, I got the two mixed up. That makes sense with being furloughed. Doesn’t appear typed, but if you remember FOs didn’t need to be typed until 05.


Originally Posted by A Squared (Post 2595776)
I'd say that was more a commentary on her judgment and ego than a valid excuse for the performance.

Yes.

DeadHead 05-18-2018 03:50 AM

Engine failure followed by cabin depressurisation nothing more.

The crew did a great job getting everyone home safely, but I’m not sure how you make a news story out of it.

Furthermore, I can’t imagine any rational pilot would participate in a sensationalised news story particularly in a filmed simulator session of an aircraft I have little experience in without he minimum required crew.

I’m betting the actual event was NOTHING like this.

Fr8Thrust 05-23-2018 03:52 PM

The smurf today who asked me, “Are you crew?” while comparing my crew ID to the KCM database.

NeverHome 05-23-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust (Post 2600894)
The smurf today who asked me, “Are you crew?” while comparing my crew ID to the KCM database.

It was a trick question. ;)

PowderFinger 05-24-2018 12:30 PM

Only a real crew member would know the answer.

Han Solo 05-24-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust (Post 2600894)
The smurf today who asked me, “Are you crew?” while comparing my crew ID to the KCM database.

Are you TSA?

captjns 05-24-2018 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust (Post 2600894)
The smurf today who asked me, “Are you crew?” while comparing my crew ID to the KCM database.

Aw gee. did the little pilot get his big ego hurt?:(

80ktsClamp 05-24-2018 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2601691)
Aw gee. did the little pilot get his big ego hurt?:(

Making a small penis comment and now this one? Feeling a bit Napoleon-ish lately, jns?? :eek:

VIRotate 05-24-2018 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2601691)
Aw gee. did the little pilot get his big ego hurt?:(

https://memegenerator.net/img/images...-triggered.jpg

at6d 05-25-2018 12:13 AM

Wait are we done with the Riddler already?

VIRotate 05-25-2018 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2601957)
Wait are we done with the Riddler already?

She's getting blasted on her own thread. I would say far from done!

DeadHead 05-25-2018 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by VIRotate (Post 2601960)
She's getting blasted on her own thread. I would say far from done!

ERAU pulled the video, however the it's still out there.

I'm guessing they are realizing what an embarrassing display of airmanship it is.

VIRotate 05-25-2018 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 2601962)
ERAU pulled the video, however the it's still out there.

I'm guessing they are realizing what an embarrassing display of airmanship it is.

Honesty it’s nice to see that they realized that..how this even got approved is beyond me.

Al Czervik 07-06-2018 08:00 AM

When you introduce yourself with a callsign, tell me I need to listen to a a specific frequency (not guard or fingers) on my radio on speaker and refuse to use the intercom you’re the TOTD.

echelon 07-06-2018 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2628912)
When you introduce yourself with a callsign

Enough said

Salukipilot4590 07-06-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 2628915)
Enough said

But what if I call myself Sexual Chocolate?

captjns 07-06-2018 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2628912)
When you introduce yourself with a callsign, tell me I need to listen to a a specific frequency (not guard or fingers) on my radio on speaker and refuse to use the intercom you’re the TOTD.

Captain George aka Maverick?


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