Formatting error. Again, AA 587 was a departure event...the following aircraft was BELOW the vortex generating aircraft. We're talking about an ILS where the trail aircraft is ABOVE the generator.

Big difference. And, I agree the flight control inputs were to blame, but you have to remember that, at the time, ALL airlines were sim training FULL THROW of flight controls for upset recovery. That theory changed after 587.

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Happened at ASA 3-4 years ago. A CRJ2 on downwind behind a Korean B748 freighter.

It wasn't on downwind... 400 agl on final

Ughhh, obnoxious ANY time of the day. The SWA people are wonderful, but I cringe at their PAs sometimes. (Note: it's not just them who try to get cute with their pax. This applies to any and all airlines!)

Thank you for redirecting this thread to TOTD.

Coupled or not, a tailwind is going to cause a problem for the following aircraft.

LAX often has east winds down the final until descending below about 1500-2500 feet, even though the approaches are being flown to the west runways. 10 tailwinds are not unusual at all there, which means that previous jet's wake is likely hanging right on the glideslope, rather than descending below it. Following a Heavy or a Super while at minimum spacing, I'd go a 1/2 dot high too.

And in that vein, I nominate the last 2 pages of this thread...:)

Sharp GA pilots will stay above the airliner's path before us if closely spaced, particularly in quartering winds. It is pretty easy for me to drop back onto the runway from being quite high.

Rolling fully through inverted? Ooohkay.... :rolleyes:

It actually works quite well for airliners...in the sim.

I am not aware that it's been done for real, but somebody on here said it has happened.

Well, I tried to get it back on track!

Not one TOTD nomination in the past couple weeks? YGBKM.

I nominate everyone who derailed this wonderful thread with this stupid debate as tools of the day.

Take it easy First Officer Happy

For the record when it almost happened to the L-ASA CRJ200 a few years ago in ATL, the aircraft was IIRC about 4,000' MSL and it rolled 140 degrees. The crew rolled it back upright and continued the landing. They're never went all the way around and in the process also lost about 1000'.

I already did that. Check Beechedjet's post. THAT GUY is my TOTD nominee.

I submit his post as proof!

That guy

woaaahhh

UPS pilot trying to bring non-crewmember travelling companion through KCM. I thought by now, as a group, we would have evolved past this kind of ignorance.

I really hope someone did not try that. That's beyond ignorance.

If it was an emotional support traveling companion it should be allowed....:cool:

Emotional support hooker? You might be on to something..... dang this forum just continues to produce gold!! :D

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Captain “George” from Delta from SEA to FAI today could not stop bragging about his naval carrier during his welcome aboard speech. His call sign, which he mentioned no less than 5 times is “Captain Hollywood”. Never commented about his F/O or cabin crew. Hopefully he’s not going to serve meals or adult beverages. Better yet “Captain Hollywood” or Captain George, your call sign should be “Captain Putz”.

Wow, know your audience.

Did Hollywood grab an OK three wire for you on arrival. :rolleyes:

Sounds like “Iceman — The Later Years.”

Ditch the tie, burn a stogie, bada bing.

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Must have lost a bet to somebody...

If I was FO I would have been thankful I did not get a mention

https://youtu.be/0t-RG_iNb_M

Bragging about your 3,800 mile commute to fly a Caravan for $18/hr. TOTD.

The Stews that insist on hawking the credit card offers during a transcon red-eye flight. Tell me again how many miles I’ll get just for turning in all my personal information to you on that little slip of paper in the middle of the night!😃

Ah youth, the airlines would love to have 10,000 just like him.:eek:

Overeager and young? Not sure if official toolish.

Shooting your GoPro scene walking off a jet instead of sticking your head inside the cockpit to say "Thanks for the ride"? Tool of the Year with the Snap-On Oak Leaf Cluster.

It’s like running the Boston Marathon to get a bowl of chowder. :p

No pressure cookers, please.:eek:

Posting Swayne Martin on this thread should be cheating - among tools, he stands alone as possibly the biggest douche in this industry. His video about creating a GoFundMe for the Riddle grad with $270k of debt so she could go make $18k/yr wasting space in the right seat of a Caravan takes the cake though IMO. Thanks, Swayne, for helping take advantage of stupid people on the internet to subsidize the comically low pay at your "airline," thus helping ensure that nothing will ever change in this business!

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You are spot on!

She will get hired at Delta before he will! He's too male and too pale

Wow! Misogyny AND racism all in one short post? Awe-inspiring.

For the record, she'll get the job before him because he is a contemptible, gigantic turd.

Then again, I think that's in the "start an aviation YouTube channel" terms of service.

I guess 85% of those hired being white male is too low chances for you. That's not very Tier 1 at all. :cool: