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captjns 08-26-2017 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2419968)
So, does that mean every airline that turns every light they have on when they take the active to line up and wait is wrong? Not really sure what you're trying to say.

As Fred T. Rookus from the FAA says.... "See and be seen!"... Lights on.

727C47 08-26-2017 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2419887)
Good on them. A wee bit of courtesy, especially when requests by flight crews are granted, goes a long way, unless there congestion on the frequency?

I agree with you ,God bless em

Lemons 08-26-2017 12:18 PM

Now you guys care what the "faa says". I bet most of your talk below 10, read the newspaper or vape in inflight.

captjns 08-26-2017 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Lemons (Post 2420109)
Now you guys care what the "faa says". I bet most of your talk below 10, read the newspaper or vape in inflight.

Gee... I've always wanted to learn to play poker... ;)

snipeone 08-28-2017 12:34 AM

Most times, when switching frequencies, I'd say "Thank you for your kind service", and more often than not, that would earn me the skunk-eye award from whoever I was paired with...... why not? (retired):)

Al Czervik 09-03-2017 06:43 AM

Any crew member that slams hotel doors. The FA's know we aren't allowed to knock ourselves out like them with ambien... right?

prex8390 09-03-2017 09:15 AM

For the love of god people, if you're gonna non rev and get the privilege of getting first class, act like you've been there before. Especially when you're sitting someone you recognize or is famous. No less than 3 people kept bothering Ruth Bader Ginsburg on a flight this afternoon for pictures. An AA employee sitting next to me even tried to give her his business card. Let them be especually when she's head down in a book.

Milk Man 09-03-2017 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2424353)
For the love of god people, if you're gonna non rev and get the privilege of getting first class, act like you've been there before. Especially when you're sitting someone you recognize or is famous. No less than 3 people kept bothering Ruth Bader Ginsburg on a flight this afternoon for pictures. An AA employee sitting next to me even tried to give her his business card. Let them be especually when she's head down in a book.

Yea, I agree

LNL76 09-03-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2424275)
Any crew member that slams hotel doors. The FA's know we aren't allowed to knock ourselves out like them with ambien... right?

Yep, you just use copious amounts of alcohol to sedate yourselves! 😜

Mesabah 09-03-2017 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2424353)
For the love of god people, if you're gonna non rev and get the privilege of getting first class, act like you've been there before. Especially when you're sitting someone you recognize or is famous. No less than 3 people kept bothering Ruth Bader Ginsburg on a flight this afternoon for pictures. An AA employee sitting next to me even tried to give her his business card. Let them be especually when she's head down in a book.

I hope that business card said retirement solutions on it.

Vincent Chase 09-03-2017 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by crxpilot (Post 2424450)
We can only hope she's heads down for an eternal nap.

Nope. She was laser focused on learning a foreign language. It was called The Constitution of The United States. She shook her head often and said it was stupid. She had case precedent that proved it.:rolleyes:

tomgoodman 09-03-2017 01:48 PM

Celebrities should realize that for every person that annoys them, they have annoyed thousands. :rolleyes:

CBreezy 09-03-2017 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by crxpilot (Post 2424450)
We can only hope she's heads down for an eternal nap.

I nominate you for TOTD for hoping someone dies because they disagree with you. Classy.

N19906 09-03-2017 03:24 PM

"Just" TOTD? Nah...

bay982 09-03-2017 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2424476)
I nominate you for TOTD for hoping someone dies because they disagree with you. Classy.

In 3..2..1.. he says something to the effect of "get a sense of humor" which backs up your correct assessment that crxpilot is a giant tool.

deadseal 09-03-2017 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by crxpilot (Post 2424450)
We can only hope she's heads down for an eternal nap.

Shame on you for being such a child as to wish the death of any human being. How bout you grow the **** up

flensr 09-03-2017 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2424502)
Shame on you for being such a child as to wish the death of any human being. How bout you grow the **** up

While any rational person will appreciate the sentiment... I spent quite a few years wishing, and helping accomplish, the death of human beings. Completely different circumstances of course, but language is important and distinctions are sometimes VERY important.
I went human hunting at work every day for years, because it needed doing for reasons I don't need to justify or defend to anyone. I don't regret one day of it even though I'll have to live with it for the rest of my life. I don't think any of it was childish in any way.

Clarifications aside, you're of course correct. In spite of the massive long-term impacts a radical supreme court justice can have (from any point of the political/social spectrum), wishing one dead comes across as a wish for the destruction of the entire concept of American lawful society. In spite of supreme court decisions that I think are utterly destructive to the US and against the constitution that those judges are supposed to uphold, I strongly prefer our current system to having a king, religious oligarchy, military "protectorship", etc etc.

ISIS has a court system too, and I prefer ours in spite of our system's bitterly divided nature.

Sputnik 09-03-2017 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2424502)
Shame on you for being such a child as to wish the death of any human being. How bout you grow the **** up

Pilot? Grow up?

As an actual fan of the Notorious RBG....lighten up Francis. She's a 1st amendment fan, I think she would tell you something similar

Lemons 09-03-2017 05:36 PM

She should just retire. She can't even stay awake.

WhistlePig 09-03-2017 05:47 PM

Pilots vehemently defend what they BELIEVE is in the Constitution every day to captive audiences. I'd rather teach pigs to sing then to explain what the holdings in certain cases really mean, how limited the USC jurisdiction really is, how no one who means a damn, except other liked minded pilots, is impressed by quoting random dicta like bible verses to "prove" their point about whatever. Bless their hearts.

prex8390 09-03-2017 06:23 PM

Shesh, people wishing death on others and what not. My point was Straight forward, act like an adult and stop asking elderly people for photographs because you saw them on TV. A person whether you support them or not was a paying customer just trying to from A to B. Leave them alone, end of story. I nominate you all for TOTD for taking a simple message and turning it into a political soapbox

flensr 09-03-2017 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2424569)
Shesh, people wishing death on others and what not. My point was Straight forward, act like an adult and stop asking elderly people for photographs because you saw them on TV. A person whether you support them or not was a paying customer just trying to from A to B. Leave them alone, end of story. I nominate you all for TOTD for taking a simple message and turning it into a political soapbox

Can we wish a pox on them? Curse them with an interesting life? Taunt them a second time?

:p

Hetman 09-03-2017 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2424584)
...Taunt them a second time-ah...

:p

Fixed it for you. :D

ShyGuy 09-03-2017 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2424353)
For the love of god people, if you're gonna non rev and get the privilege of getting first class, act like you've been there before. Especially when you're sitting someone you recognize or is famous. No less than 3 people kept bothering Ruth Bader Ginsburg on a flight this afternoon for pictures. An AA employee sitting next to me even tried to give her his business card. Let them be especually when she's head down in a book.

I'm more surprised that 3 people knew who Ruth Bader Ginsburg is :D

deadseal 09-03-2017 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2424519)
While any rational person will appreciate the sentiment... I spent quite a few years wishing, and helping accomplish, the death of human beings. Completely different circumstances of course, but language is important and distinctions are sometimes VERY important.
I went human hunting at work every day for years, because it needed doing for reasons I don't need to justify or defend to anyone. I don't regret one day of it even though I'll have to live with it for the rest of my life. I don't think any of it was childish in any way.

Clarifications aside, you're of course correct. In spite of the massive long-term impacts a radical supreme court justice can have (from any point of the political/social spectrum), wishing one dead comes across as a wish for the destruction of the entire concept of American lawful society. In spite of supreme court decisions that I think are utterly destructive to the US and against the constitution that those judges are supposed to uphold, I strongly prefer our current system to having a king, religious oligarchy, military "protectorship", etc etc.

ISIS has a court system too, and I prefer ours in spite of our system's bitterly divided nature.

Cool story bro

WhipWhitaker 09-04-2017 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2424629)
Cool story bro

Beat me to it.

Lemons 09-04-2017 08:39 AM

Why did your guys can crxpilot?

RI830 09-04-2017 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by lnl76 (Post 2424373)
yep, you just use copious amounts of alcohol to sedate yourselves! 😜

bazinga!!!!!

Pokeysrider 09-04-2017 12:39 PM

Recycling Aviator Chavez for TOD
 
Left speechless. By. The. Moron

rickair7777 09-04-2017 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by WhistlePig (Post 2424547)
Pilots vehemently defend what they BELIEVE is in the Constitution every day to captive audiences. I'd rather teach pigs to sing then to explain what the holdings in certain cases really mean, how limited the USC jurisdiction really is, how no one who means a damn, except other liked minded pilots, is impressed by quoting random dicta like bible verses to "prove" their point about whatever. Bless their hearts.

Here's a first amendment lesson...

The First limits the GOVERNMENT's ability to restrict your speech (federal, State and Local).

It in no way protects you from non-government interference with your speech. So your employer, union, etc can limit your speech and then sanction you (firing, etc) if you don't comply. There are a few exceptions which are codified in laws other than the First (ie labor organizing is protected speech).

In that spirit, APC temporarily banned CRXPILOT for over-the-top, uncivil, and outrageous speech in this case.

As someone pointed out, wishing members of judicial system dead is an attack on the system itself. The Narcos down south whack their judges all the time...is that how we want to live?

RhinoBallAuto 09-04-2017 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2424980)
Here's a first amendment lesson...

The First limits the GOVERNMENT's ability to restrict your speech (federal, State and Local).

To clarify, 1st protects you from the Federal Government only... under incorporation (via the 14th) do you get protection from state/local.

Just sayin'

rickair7777 09-04-2017 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2424983)
To clarify, 1st protects you from the Federal Government only... under incorporation (via the 14th) do you get protection from state/local.

Just sayin'

Yes, the 14th has been interpreted over time to essentially apply the entire bill of rights and all amendments to state and local governments (as I understand it).

qball 09-04-2017 04:47 PM

The first amendement protect your right to free speech. In most cases it does not protect you from possible consequence of said speech. I.e. Your employer.

CBreezy 09-04-2017 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 2425005)
The first amendement protect your right to free speech. In most cases it does not protect you from possible consequence of said speech. I.e. Your employer.

It doesn't protect all speech. Even free speech has limits

at6d 09-04-2017 08:30 PM

...but the 1st is the path to protecting all of the other amendments.

Lemons 09-04-2017 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2425114)
...but the 1st is the path to protecting all of the other amendments.

That's the 2nd.

WesternSkies 09-04-2017 09:49 PM

Bear Arms for everybody!

badflaps 09-05-2017 12:12 AM

Why is there any confuzzle? Get lippy on APC and see what happens..:eek:

rickair7777 09-05-2017 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2425114)
...but the 1st is the path to protecting all of the other amendments.


Originally Posted by Lemons (Post 2425122)
That's the 2nd.

The first is the most important.

The second ensures that we get to keep the first.

RhinoBallAuto 09-05-2017 04:23 AM

Except that they were originally the third and fourth respectively... 12 amendments we're pushed out of committee as the BoR. Only ten were ratified.

Of those two, the first was never ratified, and the second became the 27th amendment in the mid-90s.

But to the point of primacy, the first had to do with the manner in which the number of representatives was calculated, and the second prohibited Representatives from giving themselves a pay raise until after an election has occurred. So before speech/arms, you can see how much the Framers really wanted to keep Congress in check.


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