Originally Posted by Pinchacabron
(Post 2333016)
Let us not bring hats into this, the internet is riddled with proper hat etiquette that we,as pontificating professionals, chose to blindly ignore. I will practice buttoning my blazer when everyone agrees to "doff their hats" in the proper and accustomed fashion.
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I am impressed my comment about an unbuttoned blazer has got this thread all spun up!
Now how bout the guys wearing pants that are way too short. Kidding. But I'm not. |
Originally Posted by thevagabond
(Post 2332595)
Here we go again. The falling standards crowd back with their silly arguments against taking pride it what we do and being professional.
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
(Post 2333285)
Every time I see the new Delta uniform, images of the Titanic captain flash in my head.
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As Nando says... "Its better to look good than fly good... and you look marvelous.":rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 2333327)
What "new Delta Uniform"? Did the Titanic captain resemble a Flight Attendant? :p
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This place is very entertaining
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
(Post 2333285)
I am soooooo glad I am a freight dog! Yes, we also look the part when we have to, but where I work, being a good stick goes much further in showing pride and being respected for what we do. Every time I see the new Delta uniform, images of the Titanic captain flash in my head.
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
(Post 2334537)
Hey I was a freight dog too. Good experience. Helped me to become a good stick. All I'm saying is we have to wear a uniform. Why not have a little pride in what we do and wear it well. That's all. The vagabond is out of this discussion.
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Originally Posted by Confused
(Post 2333241)
Now how bout the guys wearing pants that are way too short. Kidding. But I'm not.
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Way to suck up a good thread everyone. This is where funny stories go. Its the tool of the day thread, not the thread where all the tools come to define professionalism. Start a professionalism thread so i know what not to click on and get off this one.
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I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) |
the insinuation was you didn't give him a $5 tip for doing such a great job reloading the napkin holder...:D
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Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2335509)
I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) |
Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2335509)
I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) Seriously though, the napkin guy couldn't possibly know if the nice folks in line buying you a coffee - excuse me, a Dark Roast - was a kindness being returned to you for an earlier good deed you performed. I do good deeds all the time and never expect anything in return. Isn't that kind of the point? If you expect something in return then isn't that a favor and not a good deed? Napkin guy doesn't really sound like an expert on how society works. In full disclosure, nor am I an expert. But I do know enough not to go out of my way to call out a customer for what I believe is a perceived slight. But, whatever! That is why Starbucks is absolutely a last resort for me. I am tired of overpaying 300-400% for a product only to be thrown dirty looks because I don't know, nor am I interested in learning, their language. |
Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
(Post 2335711)
The napkin guy is the tool. He should keep his mouth shut and do his job and not harass his customers. But, I have come to expect this kind of thing from Starbucks. After all, this is the place where you get dirty looks for ordering a medium coffee in English instead of a Grande Dark Roast in Starbuckian.
Seriously though, the napkin guy couldn't possibly know if the nice folks in line buying you a coffee - excuse me, a Dark Roast - was a kindness being returned to you for an earlier good deed you performed. I do good deeds all the time and never expect anything in return. Isn't that kind of the point? If you expect something in return then isn't that a favor and not a good deed? Napkin guy doesn't really sound like an expert on how society works. In full disclosure, nor am I an expert. But I do know enough not to go out of my way to call out a customer for what I believe is a perceived slight. But, whatever! That is why Starbucks is absolutely a last resort for me. I am tired of overpaying 300-400% for a product only to be thrown dirty looks because I don't know, nor am I interested in learning, their language. Most brick and mortar Starbucks I've been to, people are more than pleasant. The only time I run into those horrific people, as you refer to them, are in hipster areas of cities. |
It's a peer-pressure pass-it-along thing. I've seen it a lot over the holidays in mcdonalds drive thru lines, of all places. Basically people show up, order their food, and at the pay window discover that the car ahead has paid for their food. The expectation is that you pay for the car behind you. The jerk behind the counter probably didn't realize that the couple wanted to by *you specifically* something.
It can be fun especially if you just loaded up with all sorts of food, but as you found out it's also a commie/socialist guilt trip in disguise. Plus, first yr pay... I'm always buying the least I figure I can get away with and still not chew my arm off inflight, can't afford whatever it is everyone else buys, guilt-trip or not. |
Yeah, but was your blazer even buttoned bro?
Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2335509)
I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) |
Ok not aviation toolish but toolish nonetheless...the d-bag who emailed the LPGA about a rules infraction that he/she saw on tv..and then the LPGA and USGA enforcing it the next day. Cost the player the title..
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It's a peer-pressure pass-it-along thing. I've seen it a lot over the holidays in mcdonalds drive thru lines, of all places.l As for Coffee, we quit buying Starbucks and Seatles best (Starbucks) at our house. Lots of choices these days for coffee, we just don't need a double shot of politics with the morning joe. |
Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2335509)
I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) "Dude...I know you probably didn't cover this in your "All men are pigs" or your "White Privilege is Wrong" 3 credit hour classes, and your mom probably doesn't have time to come down to the basement and explain it to you, but I am a pilot. I pick up USA Today from an airplane seat when someone else is done with it. I take soap home from the hotel room, and even the coffee filter packets. I'll stand in the rain for 20 minutes for a free airport shuttle to avoid paying a 4 dollar taxi ride to the hotel, and you expect me to buy someone a 6 dollar Latte? |
Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2335945)
So that's why that car ahead paid for my Del Taco the other night.
As for Coffee, we quit buying Starbucks and Seatles best (Starbucks) at our house. Lots of choices these days for coffee, we just don't need a double shot of politics with the morning joe. |
Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2335954)
Correct answer:
"Dude...I know you probably didn't cover this in your "All men are pigs" or your "White Privilege is Wrong" 3 credit hour classes, and your mom probably doesn't have time to come down to the basement and explain it to you, but I am a pilot. I pick up USA Today from an airplane seat when someone else is done with it. I take soap home from the hotel room, and even the coffee filter packets. I'll stand in the rain for 20 minutes for a free airport shuttle to avoid paying a 4 dollar taxi ride to the hotel, and you expect me to buy someone a 6 dollar Latte? |
Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2335954)
Correct answer:
"Dude...I know you probably didn't cover this in your "All men are pigs" or your "White Privilege is Wrong" 3 credit hour classes, and your mom probably doesn't have time to come down to the basement and explain it to you, but I am a pilot. I pick up USA Today from an airplane seat when someone else is done with it. I take soap home from the hotel room, and even the coffee filter packets. I'll stand in the rain for 20 minutes for a free airport shuttle to avoid paying a 4 dollar taxi ride to the hotel, and you expect me to buy someone a 6 dollar Latte? Thank you very much. |
Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
(Post 2335711)
The napkin guy is the tool. He should keep his mouth shut and do his job and not harass his customers. But, I have come to expect this kind of thing from Starbucks. After all, this is the place where you get dirty looks for ordering a medium coffee in English instead of a Grande Dark Roast in Starbuckian.
Seriously though, the napkin guy couldn't possibly know if the nice folks in line buying you a coffee - excuse me, a Dark Roast - was a kindness being returned to you for an earlier good deed you performed. I do good deeds all the time and never expect anything in return. Isn't that kind of the point? If you expect something in return then isn't that a favor and not a good deed? Napkin guy doesn't really sound like an expert on how society works. In full disclosure, nor am I an expert. But I do know enough not to go out of my way to call out a customer for what I believe is a perceived slight. But, whatever! That is why Starbucks is absolutely a last resort for me. I am tired of overpaying 300-400% for a product only to be thrown dirty looks because I don't know, nor am I interested in learning, their language. |
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Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2335945)
So that's why that car ahead paid for my Del Taco the other night.
As for Coffee, we quit buying Starbucks and Seatles best (Starbucks) at our house. Lots of choices these days for coffee, we just don't need a double shot of politics with the morning joe. That said we patronize the local grinder, and other stores in the a.m. for our morning joe (1/2 the price and twice as good as Starbucks) watching Morning Joe, and fresh baked goods too:). Read our local paper and chat with locals who live in our area. |
Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2335945)
So that's why that car ahead paid for my Del Taco the other night.
As for Coffee, we quit buying Starbucks and Seatles best (Starbucks) at our house. Lots of choices these days for coffee, we just don't need a double shot of politics with the morning joe.
Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
(Post 2335955)
And Starbucks sucks anyways. Plenty of local coffee roasters in your home town, small businesses, doing great things. Why spend $12 for a bag of Starbucks beans, roasted 4 weeks ago when you can spend the same and support a local roaster who roasted a batch that day?
Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 2336015)
We support our local proprietors versus the K-Mart, or Walmart, etal, which close down the local stores when they invade our area. Then they close down their superstores, leaving a void in the local area with a rise in unemployment. Aren't these big superstores, (bunch of tools) continue to support foreign economies rather than selling goods manufactured in the U.S.?
That said we patronize the local grinder, and other stores in the a.m. for our morning joe (1/2 the price and twice as good as Starbucks) watching Morning Joe, and fresh baked goods too:). Read our local paper and chat with locals who live in our area. |
Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2335509)
I was getting Starbucks and the couple in front of me started chatting me up in the line. They get to the front and order and they insist on buying me whatever I want. Cool! So I take them up on it, and simply order a normal coffee worth about $3. I thank them profusely, and even ask if they happen to be on my flight so I could perhaps make sure they get taken care of. Of course they aren't, but oh well. I tried.
So here's the TOTD: I'm at the table putting cream into my coffee while a Starbucks employee is refilling napkins and such and he says to me, "You know bro. When someone does something nice for me, I usually reciprocate and do something nice for someone else. That's how society works dude." It took a second to process what he was saying. What?! I realized by his tone of voice he was basically calling me out and saying I was a big jerk. What was I suppose to do? Buy coffee for the next guy, and then he do the same? When does it end? Do the next 20 people in line have to do it now, meaning someone is going to be the jerk eventually. Am I the tool for not buying coffee now? I'll admit it didn't even cross my mind. (queue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme) https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/..._winnipeg.html In your case (well in any case) you did nothing wrong. I think these social pressure things are kind of silly. I have paid for probably hundreds of people's meals / coffees and tipped line boys generously in my life, but I did it because I wanted to and could, not because I was forced to or guilted into doing it, which kind of defeats the point. I wouldn't (couldn't) have done this when I was a student and in med school. I don't want a student or junior pilot paying for my coffee. If the "next guy" just wanted something expensive for himself, then you would have suffered for this "generosity" which is not the point of generosity. :rolleyes: Just say thank you and move on, and be as generous as your circumstances allow in the future. You weren't the tool here. |
That jackass in "Starsucks" was waaay out of line. Oh, and their coffee is crap! What a pretentious company.
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
(Post 2331912)
Define professional. I dont find anything in my company manual that dictates the usage of buttons on the blazer. So I guess that only leaves you. Are you the end all be all grand wizard when it comes to uniforms and professionalism?
Dont get me wrong, it may look better having it all buttoned up, but are we crossing a line of professionalism here? ;) |
Originally Posted by LNL76
(Post 2336194)
That jackass in "Starsucks" was waaay out of line. Oh, and their coffee is crap! What a pretentious company.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 2332584)
Exactly, and if you need a little visual guidance take notice of an Emirates, Lufthansa, Korean Air, etc crew the next time one walks past you. One of the reasons they're respected far more in their respective countries than we are in ours is because they look and act the part.
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Today's tool is another drunk pilot, lost and low on fuel.
SoCal Pilot Arrested On DUI Charge After Landing On Top Of Building « CBS San Francisco A part of me is impressed with that landing! |
Yeah, but is he good enough to take off from there?
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Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 2335954)
Correct answer:
"Dude...I know you probably didn't cover this in your "All men are pigs" or your "White Privilege is Wrong" 3 credit hour classes, and your mom probably doesn't have time to come down to the basement and explain it to you, but I am a pilot. I pick up USA Today from an airplane seat when someone else is done with it. I take soap home from the hotel room, and even the coffee filter packets. I'll stand in the rain for 20 minutes for a free airport shuttle to avoid paying a 4 dollar taxi ride to the hotel, and you expect me to buy someone a 6 dollar Latte? |
Originally Posted by thevagabond
(Post 2336612)
Yup. I like the idea of carrying around a french press and grounds. I'm a coffee addict and I'm amazed at people's love for Starbucks and Dunkin. People, it's crap.
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
(Post 2336672)
Today's tool is another drunk pilot, lost and low on fuel.
SoCal Pilot Arrested On DUI Charge After Landing On Top Of Building « CBS San Francisco A part of me is impressed with that landing! |
I've never understood the reason for the tip jar at Starbucks or fast food establishments.
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Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 2336790)
I've never understood the reason for the tip jar at Starbucks or fast food establishments.
I hope you're just trolling. If you can't see how throwing someone who gets their @ss up at 3 AM to come to airport and deal with a bunch of cranky passengers and crews some spare change or even an entire dollar (God help us) once in awhile, I don't know what to tell you. |
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