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Originally Posted by saxman66
(Post 2232064)
We're pilots! We'll be underbidding each other in no time.:D
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Oh, I got a good one. I wish I were making this up but I'm not.
A few weeks back, doing an 0600 departure to SFO in our creaky ol' CRJ-700 (Skywest, operating as UAX.) I happen to notice a mainline UAL captain riding in the back. Anyhow, all is well until we push, fire 'er up, and start taxiing. We get a L AOA HEAT caution message. Pull out the book, and lo and behold — it's a non-deferable, grounding item. Captain calls MX on his cell, and they confirm what the book says. We're not going anywhere but back to the gate. And since this is at an outstation, the company calls contract maintenance. We're told it'll be at least a 4-hour delay. So we taxi back to the gate, offer sincere apologies, and start deplaning everyone. The UAL CA comes into the flight deck, and in the most aggressive, rude tone I think I've ever heard a pilot use to another professional, says: "So what's wrong, guys? You just made me miss my commute." My CA looks at him and answers very politely, "Well, we had a left AOA heat probe caution. Book says we can't defer it and there's no reset procedure." The UAL CA instantly responds in a very snide manner: "You sure about that? You sure you reading the book right? In the Triple that's a deferrable item." My CA and I just kind of look at each other in amazement. My CA shrugs, grabs the MEL book and tosses it at the UAL guy. "Have a look for yourself." The UAL CA shakes his head and actually says: "I liked you guys better when you just flew Brasilias." And then walks off the plane. I am not making up a single word of this, I promise. Not one single word. I'm trying to imagine just what would have happened if the roles were reversed and I, a lowly RJ driver, had tried the same act on that 777 CA when he was in the left seat of his aircraft. Anyhow, I've never before been glad for a pilot missing his commute, but this guy... |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2263813)
Oh, I got a good one. I wish I were making this up but I'm not.
A few weeks back, doing an 0600 departure to SFO in our creaky ol' CRJ-700 (Skywest, operating as UAX.) I happen to notice a mainline UAL captain riding in the back. Anyhow, all is well until we push, fire 'er up, and start taxiing. We get a L AOA HEAT caution message. Pull out the book, and lo and behold — it's a non-deferable, grounding item. Captain calls MX on his cell, and they confirm what the book says. We're not going anywhere but back to the gate. And since this is at an outstation, the company calls contract maintenance. We're told it'll be at least a 4-hour delay. So we taxi back to the gate, offer sincere apologies, and start deplaning everyone. The UAL CA comes into the flight deck, and in the most aggressive, rude tone I think I've ever heard a pilot use to another professional, says: "So what's wrong, guys? You just made me miss my commute." My CA looks at him and answers very politely, "Well, we had a left AOA heat probe caution. Book says we can't defer it and there's no reset procedure." The UAL CA instantly responds in a very snide manner: "You sure about that? You sure you reading the book right? In the Triple that's a deferrable item." My CA and I just kind of look at each other in amazement. My CA shrugs, grabs the MEL book and tosses it at the UAL guy. "Have a look for yourself." The UAL CA shakes his head and actually says: "I liked you guys better when you just flew Brasilias." And then walks off the plane. I am not making up a single word of this, I promise. Not one single word. I'm trying to imagine just what would have happened if the roles were reversed and I, a lowly RJ driver, had tried the same act on that 777 CA when he was in the left seat of his aircraft. Anyhow, I've never before been glad for a pilot missing his commute, but this guy... |
Surprised he didn't call it a Barbie Jet!
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2263813)
Oh, I got a good one. I wish I were making this up but I'm not.
A few weeks back, doing an 0600 departure to SFO in our creaky ol' CRJ-700 (Skywest, operating as UAX.) I happen to notice a mainline UAL captain riding in the back. Anyhow, all is well until we push, fire 'er up, and start taxiing. We get a L AOA HEAT caution message. Pull out the book, and lo and behold — it's a non-deferable, grounding item. Captain calls MX on his cell, and they confirm what the book says. We're not going anywhere but back to the gate. And since this is at an outstation, the company calls contract maintenance. We're told it'll be at least a 4-hour delay. So we taxi back to the gate, offer sincere apologies, and start deplaning everyone. The UAL CA comes into the flight deck, and in the most aggressive, rude tone I think I've ever heard a pilot use to another professional, says: "So what's wrong, guys? You just made me miss my commute." My CA looks at him and answers very politely, "Well, we had a left AOA heat probe caution. Book says we can't defer it and there's no reset procedure." The UAL CA instantly responds in a very snide manner: "You sure about that? You sure you reading the book right? In the Triple that's a deferrable item." My CA and I just kind of look at each other in amazement. My CA shrugs, grabs the MEL book and tosses it at the UAL guy. "Have a look for yourself." The UAL CA shakes his head and actually says: "I liked you guys better when you just flew Brasilias." And then walks off the plane. I am not making up a single word of this, I promise. Not one single word. I'm trying to imagine just what would have happened if the roles were reversed and I, a lowly RJ driver, had tried the same act on that 777 CA when he was in the left seat of his aircraft. Anyhow, I've never before been glad for a pilot missing his commute, but this guy... |
Good look to the crew flying with that guy and that's if he made it to work on time.
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I would have said "airplane's broke, now get out of my cockpit". Sheesh.
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Well he did just lose his turn with his Bangkok girlfriend. Really, must be living a miserable life.
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2263813)
Oh, I got a good one.
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Please tell me you guys told him to take his $7itty attitude and not bother bringing it or himself back on board. I sure as hell would have told him to go pound sand. I think a call to Pro Standards and/or you JS Coordinator is very much in order.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 2264086)
Please tell me you guys told him to take his $7itty attitude and not bother bringing it or himself back on board. I sure as hell would have told him to go pound sand. I think a call to Pro Standards and/or you JS Coordinator is very much in order.
Good news was, we ended up getting home and I had my next trip removed from my schedule due to legality, so it's all good. And of course, of the many hundreds of guys I've had JS'ing or non-revving in the back, this was the only one who turned out to be a tool. 99.999% of guys (and gals), no matter the airline, are super grateful and friendly and great to talk to. I believe this guy was non-revving since he didn't come up and talk to us prior to departure, so I'm guessing he wasn't a J/S'er. Oh well. It happens. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2264228)
We were just both so astonished that we just actually sat there and started laughing. As in, "Did that really just happen? Did you hear the same thing I did?"
Good news was, we ended up getting home and I had my next trip removed from my schedule due to legality, so it's all good. And of course, of the many hundreds of guys I've had JS'ing or non-revving in the back, this was the only one who turned out to be a tool. 99.999% of guys (and gals), no matter the airline, are super grateful and friendly and great to talk to. I believe this guy was non-revving since he didn't come up and talk to us prior to departure, so I'm guessing he wasn't a J/S'er. Oh well. It happens. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2263813)
The UAL CA shakes his head and actually says: "I liked you guys better when you just flew Brasilias."
And then walks off the plane. Some guys are way out of touch with reality, kudos for handling it professionally. |
Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2264003)
Well he did just lose his turn with his Bangkok girlfriend. Really, must be living a miserable life.
No excuse. Was he a scab? |
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
(Post 2264281)
LOL, I'd have replied that I liked you guys better before you sold out your scope and gave us these crappy RJs...
Some guys are way out of touch with reality, kudos for handling it professionally. |
Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
(Post 2264375)
Probably ended up with 3 ladyboy's in a row and was frustrated.
No excuse. Was he a scab? As for the scab question, I didn't get his name and honestly even if I had, I wouldn't have a clue where to look him up. Aren't all those guys retired by now? I guess if you were 30 when you scabbed in what, '84 (I was all of 11 at the time), then you could still be flying the line...? |
We hired one they are still out there!
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2264556)
LOL, probably..
As for the scab question, I didn't get his name and honestly even if I had, I wouldn't have a clue where to look him up. Aren't all those guys retired by now? I guess if you were 30 when you scabbed in what, '84 (I was all of 11 at the time), then you could still be flying the line...? |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2263813)
Oh, I got a good one. I wish I were making this up but I'm not.
A few weeks back, doing an 0600 departure to SFO in our creaky ol' CRJ-700 (Skywest, operating as UAX.) I happen to notice a mainline UAL captain riding in the back. Anyhow, all is well until we push, fire 'er up, and start taxiing. We get a L AOA HEAT caution message. Pull out the book, and lo and behold — it's a non-deferable, grounding item. Captain calls MX on his cell, and they confirm what the book says. We're not going anywhere but back to the gate. And since this is at an outstation, the company calls contract maintenance. We're told it'll be at least a 4-hour delay. So we taxi back to the gate, offer sincere apologies, and start deplaning everyone. The UAL CA comes into the flight deck, and in the most aggressive, rude tone I think I've ever heard a pilot use to another professional, says: "So what's wrong, guys? You just made me miss my commute." My CA looks at him and answers very politely, "Well, we had a left AOA heat probe caution. Book says we can't defer it and there's no reset procedure." The UAL CA instantly responds in a very snide manner: "You sure about that? You sure you reading the book right? In the Triple that's a deferrable item." My CA and I just kind of look at each other in amazement. My CA shrugs, grabs the MEL book and tosses it at the UAL guy. "Have a look for yourself." The UAL CA shakes his head and actually says: "I liked you guys better when you just flew Brasilias." And then walks off the plane. I am not making up a single word of this, I promise. Not one single word. I'm trying to imagine just what would have happened if the roles were reversed and I, a lowly RJ driver, had tried the same act on that 777 CA when he was in the left seat of his aircraft. Anyhow, I've never before been glad for a pilot missing his commute, but this guy... |
Originally Posted by krudawg
(Post 2266517)
Not sure if it matters to you guys but I'd like to sincerely apologize for that idiots' behavior. I JS a lot between SFO and PHX and have always appreciated the courtesy given to me by the Flight Deck and Cabin Crew. If I knew who that guy was, I'd give him a piece of my mind if I ever ran into him in Ops. What a Tool! Again, I apologize for that CA and thank you for allowing me to ride on your airplane.
Anyone and everyone is always welcome. And while I don't have to ride in the JS frequently anymore (thank heavens, I now live in base), I have always been deeply grateful to the many UAL, DL, SWA, and AA crews who have kindly allowed me to ride their JS. |
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
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Originally Posted by PruneJuice
(Post 2266900)
Tools of the month, those idiots eating the Christmas epaulettes and ties. You look goofy and unprofessional.
On a related note, i drink a gallon of eggnog so i can fart mistletoe. My fellow crew loves it. Tis the season to spread some holliday cheer. :D |
This guy ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/passen...182954922.html And for the win ... Updated statement: Customers removed for disruptive behavior | Delta News Hub Looks like the hustler's latest publicity stunt didn't go as planned. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2267187)
This guy ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/passen...182954922.html And for the win ... Updated statement: Customers removed for disruptive behavior | Delta News Hub Looks like the hustler's latest publicity stunt didn't go as planned. That's the thing that drives me nuts in these incidents. They pull somebody off of a flight because of disruptive behavior, and/or the crew has a legitimate security concern -- and then they turn around and book the perp on another flight! Sometimes only an hour or so later! And what are the chances that anybody informs the new crew that is inheriting the screwball of his or her previous incident? Like when the agents will let a pax board who is obviously falling-down drunk, against the regulations. They just want that person out of their hair. Let the flight crew deal with it. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2267187)
This guy ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/passen...182954922.html And for the win ... Updated statement: Customers removed for disruptive behavior | Delta News Hub Looks like the hustler's latest publicity stunt didn't go as planned. |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4059082/Ivanka-Trump-aggressively-confronted-man-JetBlue-sitting-children-screams-father-ruining-country-asks-flight.html
I wonder if they will be banned for life? |
Originally Posted by trip
(Post 2267681)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4059082/Ivanka-Trump-aggressively-confronted-man-JetBlue-sitting-children-screams-father-ruining-country-asks-flight.html
I wonder if they will be banned for life? |
Sadly, I got another one, from just this morning.
Scenario: We're sitting near the gate at an outstation, waiting for our flow window into our hub to open up. Anyhow, we're facing a 3-hour delay. A passenger comes up to us and quite aggressively asks, "How long is this delay going to be? This is ridiculous!! I have an international connection!" We're used to this sort of stuff, so we patiently explain why flow control exists, how we're frequently in touch with the company and ATC to see if there's a chance for an earlier window, and so forth. We're patient and apologetic, just like you'd expect. This doesn't satisfy the passenger. She starts the usual rant about inconvenience, delays, how this late flight will ruin her life, etc. Of course, we continue to apologize, etc.... Wait for it... wait for it... Finally she storms off in a huff, but not before declaring "Next time I'm going to buy a ticket instead of non-revving!!" I wish I was making this up. I really, really do. PS The flight after ours was cancelled, so we took all of the revenue pax from that flight that we could fit. No non-revs made it on board. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2268464)
Sadly, I got another one, from just this morning.
Scenario: We're sitting near the gate at an outstation, waiting for our flow window into our hub to open up. Anyhow, we're facing a 3-hour delay. A passenger comes up to us and quite aggressively asks, "How long is this delay going to be? This is ridiculous!! I have an international connection!" We're used to this sort of stuff, so we patiently explain why flow control exists, how we're frequently in touch with the company and ATC to see if there's a chance for an earlier window, and so forth. We're patient and apologetic, just like you'd expect. This doesn't satisfy the passenger. She starts the usual rant about inconvenience, delays, how this late flight will ruin her life, etc. Of course, we continue to apologize, etc.... Wait for it... wait for it... Finally she storms off in a huff, but not before declaring "Next time I'm going to buy a ticket instead of non-revving!!" I wish I was making this up. I really, really do. PS The flight after ours was cancelled, so we took all of the revenue pax from that flight that we could fit. No non-revs made it on board. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2268464)
Sadly, I got another one, from just this morning.
Scenario: We're sitting near the gate at an outstation, waiting for our flow window into our hub to open up. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2268464)
Sadly, I got another one, from just this morning.
Scenario: We're sitting near the gate at an outstation, waiting for our flow window into our hub to open up. Anyhow, we're facing a 3-hour delay. A passenger comes up to us and quite aggressively asks, "How long is this delay going to be? This is ridiculous!! I have an international connection!" We're used to this sort of stuff, so we patiently explain why flow control exists, how we're frequently in touch with the company and ATC to see if there's a chance for an earlier window, and so forth. We're patient and apologetic, just like you'd expect. This doesn't satisfy the passenger. She starts the usual rant about inconvenience, delays, how this late flight will ruin her life, etc. Of course, we continue to apologize, etc.... Wait for it... wait for it... Finally she storms off in a huff, but not before declaring "Next time I'm going to buy a ticket instead of non-revving!!" I wish I was making this up. I really, really do. PS The flight after ours was cancelled, so we took all of the revenue pax from that flight that we could fit. No non-revs made it on board. Looks like karma paid Ms. Entitlement Mentality a cruel visit! |
Sounds like the perfect example for another chapter in the book, "The Predatory Female".
https://www.amazon.com/Predatory-Fem...edatory+female Where is the Reverend Shannon these days? |
Thought non-reving was not suppose to be used for business.
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The pilot who complained to ATC that the moderate turbulence over Ohio today made him spill his coffee.
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