I'm pretty sure it's the coffee.....

They're getting older and selfies fill the emotional void created by the lack of participation trophy's handed out for just showing up to work.

Probably doesn't have many friends (at work, anyway) and this is his way of dealing with it. Oh, he probably needs to get laid, too! :p

Aww, I missed it. It's "private" now...

I missed it too. Please post description!

Yeah, that captainaux is just kind of cheesy fun aimed at 10-18 year olds who like planes (and kissing too) and don't know what goes on up front. I'm not sure why anybody would hate it. It is definitely not my style, but whatever.

Today's tool - the fools that say "BLOOOCKED" in a funny voice right after a stepped on transmit. Yeah sometimes center or approach gets crowded but also keep in mind a "blocked" transmission may have still been receivable by ATC from the nearer transmission station, or the craft receiving, even though it was more balanced interference to you. A third party always piping up "blocked" just makes things worse and sometimes itself blocks the response to one of the transmitters. This is rampant and seems to get worse in crowded areas. :rolleyes:

Yes, and the majority of the time it also helps controllers know that their transmission was in fact blocked. At least that's the way it seems to work on the high altitude sectors. Maybe it's different down there where you spend your time, Doc. :rolleyes:

Hey come on. For once cardiomd wrote about something he has some actually experience with. I would like him to continue that trend, so I will offer positive reinforcement. cariomd: good job :) (you even get bonus points for not mentioning how proficient you are at flying your 182)

Have you asked a center controller if it really helps? In reality there is more going on then just you and the frequency you are on. Majority is a little strong....

I say BLOOOCKED all the time. Works great both at home and the office.

Blocked!!!!

Thanks for quoting this "Doctor" tool bag. I have him "blocked" so I do not have to read his drivel.

Agree about the stupid lame drawn out Blaawwcked's, but a short "blocked" is more useful than not.

IMHO, when nobody says it after a block or two, it's not uncommon to hear a whiny "Everybody listen up" from ATC when it happens.

Even more important at busy hubs on Gound and Tower. I never hear ATC criticizing a "BLOCKED" call or even remember hearing something like "We are aware" or state they knew a block happen.

When it does happen, it's extremely rare that a single Cessna is in the mix. IMHO, this is a small percentage of "Tool Worthy" behavior with the cutesy accent, but necessary to safe ops. The call obviously has to be done quickly and not overused.

Carry on.

The guy on Guard in SOCAL this morning who responded to Delta's inadvertent call for push. It went like this:

DL XXX: "Ground, Delta XXX, push with Mike." (on Guard).

Guy: "Morning Delta, you're cleared to push."

DL XXX: "Cleared to push, Delta XXX."

Fortunately someone jumped on and said "Yer on GUARD."

I will admit, however, that it was kinda funny. It would have been less funny had it been a takeoff clearance...

Sooner or later something really bad is going to happen because of these guard idiots.

Once I was monitoring guard and a Cessna declared an emergency... engine failure... said he was landing in a field and tried to relay that he needed emergency equipment sent that direction.

The response? "YOURE ON GUARD!!!"

Made steam come out of my ears. Luckily he got on and said he was down and safe. But this transmission could've made the difference in this guy's survival.

Thanks for reminding me! Did I mention how I nailed the glideslope? Some of us don't have coupled approach capability. Those 182's don't fly themselves! <wink>

I doubt the majority of them have trouble telling when something is blocked. If receiving hear the carrier, and if transmitting unless happened to release at same time it is usually pretty clear. A friend who went through training with me now works center and I'll ask.

Reminds me of that old "office quarterback commercial" ;)

LOL u mad bro? The marines I know IRL are respectable, proud individuals - don't break tradition! :rolleyes:

Think about why they might not do that on an extremely busy channel.

But yeah I guess it wasn't tool of the day worthy, more tool-of-the-hour. You heard the block and then the "blooocked" guy blocks another call. Going into kpwk was incredibly annoying.

Well in this case, actually...it was the 'YER ON GUARD' guy that prevented Delta from an unauthorized push...

I'll admit it's a very subjective situation, I believe your case. If it ever gets like the Guard Cops, it will be TOTD worthy.

Above FL180 and airline ops, I'd rank the "blocked" behavior as pretty disciplined. Most guys are too lazy to say it and know any additional syllables crap up a busy frequency. There are times when ATC is really busy and one can tell that they don't realize their last clearance was blocked, and as mentioned, is followed by a "listen up" bark as if the call sign was ignored and not blocked.

I think you missed the joke - it was likely the guard guy that was fooling around with Delta "authorizing" their push on guard, and then finally saying "you're on guard". At least that's how I read it.

All guard police are tools and that is a nationwide thing in my experience.

Yeah, us low flyers will occasionally get TEC but usually I'm talking to center especially when high but still below the flight levels. The blaaaccccked people are mostly doing it on approach freqs. One day I'll record it and put it on youtube, some of the really bad stuff I'm sure you'll agree the "blaaacccckkkeedd" was not helping at all. :rolleyes:

And I think you weren't there, and don't know what you're talking about. The guy who responded with the push clearance was a different guy from the one who reminded everyone that they were on Guard.

And non-airline pilots that continuously pontificate on an AIRLINE PILOT forum are what then?!

I'm wondering what the reception would be if I posted on a doctor's forum.

I have found that more often than not, miscommunication, for whatever reason, is best sorted out directly between the parties involved and that "help" from parties outside the discussion, whether intended to actually be helpful or not, usually doesn't help.

Don't know why you had to go racial on us...

Ask any controller and they will tell you they hate it when the hear "blocked" If they don't get a response from the aircraft they are trying to contact, they will try again in a few seconds. They don't need help from any one else.

Controller's Lives Matter

Then why do they occasionally ask aircraft to try to contact other aircraft...or check frequency readability and signal strength. (Most guys have no clue what that is and just say 5 by 5 if they can hear it.

Pilots don't know how many frequencies a controller is working, and sometimes a pilot and a controller are stepping on each other, hearing "blocked" usually indicates to other pilots to listen up to the controller and there are times the controller has no idea he is getting blocked and then gets ****ed. if nobody says "blocked" the controller will finally get a word in and then sometimes will say something to the effect of "callsign xxxx third call contact....." when in fact it's the fault of some reject racist doctor in a 182 that doesn't know when to just listen.

Lol ok.

I agree entirely. It began to be ridiculous and wasn't helping. Some of the "blahhked" people were doing it to be funny/annoying, and not because there is a long silence after a blocked and there is a question regarding receipt. It was particularly annoying because the channel was busy for a very good reason during the time.

I really didn't think this would be controversial. But obviously the short crowd have to try to prove they are better aviators than a doctor and bring out the insults! :eek:

Yep. My experience asking a few too.

You just made my case. If they want help, they will ask for it. Nine times out of ten, if it takes 3 calls to get a reply from an aircraft it's because the pilots were talking to each other about how to bid, contract negotiations, etc., not by being blocked. Saying "blocked" could actually block the controllers second or third attempt to contact the aircraft.

And here you go. We need to get Terry Tate to fix anybody that says "blaahhhkeeeddd" or any other toolish behavior. He would be a great asset to any flight crew!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94

I'm showing my age - those commercials were from 2003 and I thought it was 5 years ago. :o

Or you answered to "Northwest 1234" for 25 years and now you have to answer to "Delta 1234"

Commuting to work and the guy ahead of me puts his guitar case on the belt. We go through and TSA pulls his case aside. They go open it up and hold up a full size saber in a scabbard. Not sure if he made his flight.

The TSA gets a lot of grief. Especially from us. But here's a perfect example that in fact they do improve the safety of our flights. What a numbnut!

I never understood that argument. Pre-9/11 private airport security would have found this as well.

Had this happen the other day. In a busy high sector the Capt I was with said "blocked" 7 times in less than 30 seconds, blocking the controller multiple times. The controller finally had to tell everyone to "standby" so he could contact the aircraft which was a foreign carrier. The Capt then remarked to me how guys should wait before talking on a busy freq. What a douche!

New nominee: The DL guy the other night landing on 28L at SFO who was advised by Tower while on final approach to "keep it rolling through the intersection, I've got two departures on the 1s."

(For those who are unfamiliar, 1L/R intersect with 28L/R at SFO. The 1s are typically used for departures while crossing traffic lands on the 28s. Anyone who's been to SFO before will realize that common courtesy dictates you let the airplane roll through the runway intersection, even if your gate might be in Terminals 1 or 2, necessitating a bit of a back-taxi on A or B in order to get to your gate. If you slowly roll through the intersection, you block departing traffic on both 1L and 1R, and usually both runways are in heavy use by departures.)

Anyhow, said DL pilot ground to a halt right in the middle of the 1L/ 28L intersection. He obviously wanted the shortest route to his gate, and the heck with anyone else. The exchange went like this:

Tower: "DL ___, I said keep it moving! You're blocking two departures!"

DL: "Well, we're going to the 50 gates right here." (He didn't want to add another couple hundred feet to his taxi.)

Tower: "I realize that sir but I told you to keep it rolling!"

DL: (Still immobile on the runway): "OK, stand by...what taxiway did you want us to exit on?"

Tower: "I don't care sir, just get off the runway and contact Ground on point eight...ahh, it's too late now. Skywest ___ and Virgin ___, sorry, gonna have to get you out after the next pair of arrivals. DL____, next time you land here, keep it rolling like I told you."

DL: "Ahhh... roger that." Finally he found the thrust levers and exited the intersection.

We sat there on 1L watching this in disbelief. I've never seen a 121 crew just stop smack in the middle of an active runway intersection like that. But I bet they had spiffy hats.

Must have had an itchy mustache irritating him.

When it's busy, as a controller I always want to know when I was blocked so I can immediately re-transmit instead of wasting time waiting for a readback that will never come. When it's busy we need the regular rhythm of instruction/readback/instruction/readback to keep things moving. When we give "instruction" and get a readback of "blocked" we go back to "instruction" and the flow keeps going. If we give "instruction" and hear silence, now the rhythm is messed up and we have to decide to go against the flow with another instruction (when we're expecting a readback), that is likely to get blocked again if the pilot was just delayed in their response.

I've never heard other controllers rant about "blocked" either, although I've only worked in Center where about 95% of the pilots we talk to are professionals who can tell when it's the controller being blocked and not two aircraft blocking each other (when "blocked" wouldn't be appropriate). Maybe it's different in the approach and tower environment though.

Thanks for the feedback. I figured you'd like to know when you were blocked, I can also understand that saying "blocked" ties up a busy frequency even more. I think the real frustration with the OP was, the obnoxious child stretching out the transmission...."blllooooooocccccckkkkkeeeddd". That would be annoying during a red eye. When a freq was saturated, it would be brutal.

Can't really blame the "Double Breasted Admirals", unless there is a satement regarding minimum time on the runway. At many airports overseas, preferred exits are stated on the 10-9 A charts such as Sydney, and Auckland, for example. LDRs are consulted in our QRHs, and ATC IS advised accordingly, i.e. the Director, Final controller, or Tower. Spacing for departures and arrivals are made accordingly. But that's overseas and not in the U.S.