Just about as bad as the pilot I saw in IAD strolling into the airport wearing GRAY sneakers. Oh, and he had a gray backpack to match.

Maybe, just maybe he has foot problems BUT for Christ's sake, wear black sneakers so at least you don't stick out like a sore thumb.

Please tell me this is TH...if so, then yes...def TOTD material.

I used to give him the "Next Leg Undefined Checklist" when a 'No Link' was NXT in the box (it pops up as a message, I'm sure you know). It's in the redbook...and if we're going to be exactly standard, well, then he was going to read every checklist I could call for. :D

I pack pretty light, but that's gross.

You guessed correctly sir!

I had no idea there was a "next leg undefined" checklist, but I gave serious consideration to calling "master caution, parking brake" every time he set the brakes, or "master caution, tank fuel low" during startup.

I believe it's in Chapter 4...somewhere around page 64... ;) (there's a nice list of FMS Message checklist in that area, that can be fun to call at random). Also, did he do fuel tracking for all flights over 1hr? :D

You are correct and the same in my experience in aviation and professional fields.

Also my experience is that the worst fellow pilots I've come across are the ones that assume all other pilots (or anybody else) are terrible at flying. It is because they found it extremely difficult themselves, and possibly were not exposed to, or able to perform, other complex things in life (mastering a musical instrument, learning a foreign language, etc.) Unfortunately there are similar characters in my field too - the guy that always tries to recite useless irrelevant facts but is terrible with a scalpel. :rolleyes:

I feel like this is starting to become a regular trend for me but crew members that throw little kid tantrums when the hotel van isn't immediately outside when we walk out.

It's really embarrassing to be standing outside with a crew member throwing a fit becuase we have been out there all of 2 minutes and you've decided to call the hotel twice and cuss out the poor desk clerk about the whereabouts of his van and call him a liar saying he would be there. And then continue to Vent and steam in front of passengers also at the curb. It reflects poorly on us.

I get it when it's a stand up or a 10-12 hour overnight but when we have 18+ hours at the XYZ airport north/south/east/west hotel, just chill out a minute. And don't make me call the hotel either. I'm not the one who lost my temper. Enjoy the nice day out and have a little patience.

I saw something like that one day. Don't know the airline, but it was embarrassing to everyone and not professional at all. It made this cranky old lawyer want to go over and say something to the juvenile Captain. This type of behavior is 100 times worse than walking around with a Hello Kitty backpack.

But I LOVE Hello Kitty!

Hotels sign a contract stipulating what is required for wait times. Some hotels will just run the vans at set times and if you just miss it, you wait a whole cycle (30 mins ) in most cases. Our contract says 20 mins. I'll give them an extra 5, maybe 10, then I cab it and either the front desk pays, or I expense it and get reimbursed 6 weeks later. No reason to get the blood pressure up over and get angry.

Not just hotel vans but the guys that yell at anyone for anything. I've had a couple guys just rail on the guy on the ops radio on how the flights are over-blocked, as if he had set the airlines schedules up. Or just yelling on the ops freq for not having rampers or something out of this control.

If you raise your voice, you've lost the argument.

I'd like to nominate the LGA clearance controller last night for the tantrum he was throwing for the better part of an hour because he had to do his job. Some of the more memorable quotes: "I'm going to shut this frequency down if you people keep calling me" "No, I'm not verifying anything, you can verify your route with center when you're airborne."

From Delta: "Are we still on the GLDMN climb?"
DLV: "I don't know! What did we give you 3 hours ago? That's your clearance."
Delta: But we returned the gate and company refiled.
DLV: you know what, they need to stop doing that. I give you permission to fly, your company doesn't. I'm not telling you anything. What I gave you originally is your clearance.

I've always like NYC controllers, the one liners are classic. That said, jfk's shenanigans are cheeky and fun. It seems lga's shenanigans have turned cruel and tradgic.

Joking aside... File an irregularity report. The FAA will read it and investigate it. The last thing that needs to happen here is center being overwhelmed by aircraft flying on wrong routes and worse, aircraft flying "too close to each other" in the tight confines of the airspace all 3 airports share.

Exactly. I would wait the contractual time then throw the whole crew in cabs, pay for it myself then expense it. Never heard a word from the Company over the expense report.

Easy, peasy and you look like a hero to the crew.

Eviiilll shananighans

I don't know what your contract says, but at "my house", if the transport is not ready to leave 30 minutes after block-in, it is time to expense a taxi.

If you don't have some protections in your contract, then it is time to lean on your reps about the next contract.

Joe

What if I'm yelling down from the cokpit to tell the increasingly lazy "team members" working the ramp to go get a headset after they indicate to me the one they have doesn't work? I guess I win because they always slowly shuffle away and shuffle back with one.

We have the same provisions in our contract thankfully, my point was, if the van isnt there, and you wait, and eventually doesnt come an you need a cab, get one. No reason to embarrass yourself and throw a fit about it because you missed happy hour at Chilis. Its just awkward when your Captain, the leader of the crew is having a temper tantrum when we have been waiting just a few minutes. Sometimes thats life and you need to wait 2-5 minutes. Take the cab, expense it, file a hotel complaint and get on with your life.

Especially since Chilli's happy hour is all day.

This is a truly sad, yet accurate portrayal of ehat I call the 1%ers. I have flown with FOs who are in this category. It goes both ways. Usually though the FO feels they are more qualified to be CA. Maybe, maybe not. Even if they were you would think that experience would dictate a desire to strive for teamwork.

Along that last line, how many times in history has metal been bent and flesh been roasted because a crew could not function as a crew? IMHO these 1%ers should be weeded out. I know I know, "but following the book is required and a safety device!" Yes to a point. Of the two 121s I have been at, the books have conflicting and contradictory info. Discretion. That is key. The 1%ers dont have it, and that is why they need not to be flying airplanes.

Dont get me wrong, I follow the book as much as practical. But I dont let my knowlege of the nitty gritty prevent me from seeing the whole picture. Sadly too many people fall for that trap. Good people too. But the 1%ers take it to new and dangerous hights.

Ok im done ;)

"Kennedy ground, JB 123, holding short of B."
Silence.
Pause -
"Kennedy ground, JB 123."
Silence.
"Kennedy ground, JB 123."

"JB 123, Kennedy ground, go ahead."

"We're holding short of Bravo and were told to wait for your call."

?!?!?

Kennedy ground - "well I guess thanks for telling me that ..."

FO and I look at each other and start chuckling.

They guy behind me today on Gander Center who kept saying "Delta's Flight XYZ."

Could have been been worse. Could have check in as Delta Trip XYZ.

Man you guys talk about guard police. It's not as bad in Asia as it is in the NE USA but I heard a couple of Chinese pilots yelling at each other over Shanghai the other day. I guess a few folks decided to have a convo in mandarin so some guy in a thick Chinese accent yelled "SHUT UP!!!!!!!"

I busted a gut laughing

The young barely reached puberty voice who snuck onto 121.5 and quietly asked "any Guard Cops on freq today"?

The crew member flossing his teeth on crew van. Just cannot make this stuff up.

Maybe he was just trying to get folks to notice the sparkle of the gold inlay on his new front grille he got at a bargain rate on a stopover in one of those well-known Asian countries. :D

Guy briefing the flight attendants and myself how he is a laid back team player.

Guy in the cockpit telling me about his "values" and that we need to look out for each other.

Take a look... Guy is on the scab list.

He had mouths to feed

Sarcasm, I hope!

I figured that's always the excuse when it comes to scabs.

Same with the guys who honored the picket line and didn't scab. They had mouths to feed too.

You know, tooth decay is the number one cause of all gum disease. :D

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What does continually taking photos of unsuspecting piots, and then posting them to a forum, make you?

Stop being a coward and taking photos of people and posting them. You don't like how someone looks, be a man and tell them, not snap a photo of them and post it for ridicule.

Agreed! What makes someone think this is acceptable OR funny? It's bad enough if a passenger did this, but a fellow crew member?! No bueno! :rolleyes:

I'm the number one douchebag at my company and even I think taking a pic of a passed out pilot is a really weak-dick move. You have no idea what kinda hellacious schedule the guy may have put up with to that point to where he just couldn't stay awake any longer. Not everyone lives in base and flys one leg a day before their 36 hour layover in a five star hotel.

So, now we know DENpilot goes around staring at sleeping pilot's crotches, taking pictures of the ones that...er... "grab his attention"? Don't let this guy stand behind you????