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freezingflyboy 06-11-2016 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2143229)
The subject of my post was not you "ratting" your Captain out... it would have been your Captain marching up to the Crystal Palace to complain about you for apologizing, unsolicited, for his/her behavior.

The ATC tape, if you I downloaded it, may come in handy for your defense if your Captain desires(ed) to initiate disciplinary actions against you.

Disciplinary action for what? I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that meeting between Captain Napoleon and the CP.

CA: FO Bruhaha is insubordinate and needs to be disciplined.
CP: Oh? What did FO Bruhaha do to undermine your authority as captain?
CA: He apologized over the radio without my permission!
CP: What happened that he had to apologize for?
CA: Well this Delta meanie called us a regional jet so I started a pee contest.
CP: Mmhmm...I see. And can you tell me again the problem with FO Bruhaha?

DCA A321 FO 06-11-2016 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2142036)
I'm gonna throw the BS Card on this one. If it were true the FO would have also added that his Skipper bored him a new one and ratted him out to the CP and DO and his ALPA Rep.

You must fly with some weak FO's. I apologized to a jump seater before for the captain's rudeness.

Another instance the captain goes, we are going to talk to the cheap pilot, I said, what are you going to tell him? He was violating the manual, something simple, non life threatening, and I wouldn't let him.

saxman66 06-11-2016 03:42 PM

The Acey guy on ATL tower who got in a hissy fit because they made him take the victor loop instead of letting him cross the inner runway. They had to taxi "all the way" to ramp 9, and that they always let him cross the inner all the time. Tower guy told him to take a phone number if he had a problem with it. Meanwhile I just wanted my landing clearance.


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captjns 06-12-2016 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2143459)
You must fly with some weak FO's. I apologized to a jump seater before for the captain's rudeness.

Another instance the captain goes, we are going to talk to the cheap pilot, I said, what are you going to tell him? He was violating the manual, something simple, non life threatening, and I wouldn't let him.

You must opine what weak F/O's or Capt's are. I've found weaknesses are derived from pour training and or instructing, and of course bad habits which go unchecked, or not be debriefed after checking events if observed. I'm happy if the spirit of the SOPs, which include proper R/T procedures (without hissy fits) are followed.

NERD 06-12-2016 07:45 AM

Since nobody else has asked, I will. Was the SkyWest jumpseater going to the party hot?

CheapTrick 06-12-2016 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2143818)
Since nobody else has asked, I will. Was the SkyWest jumpseater going to the party hot?

Oh no, now you've done it. Insensitive, sexist, politically offensive, and in direct violation of the Moderator's edict. This confluence of floating jetsam will surely be met with a stern and stout warning. ;)

Milk Man 06-12-2016 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2143229)
The subject of my post was not you "ratting" your Captain out... it would have been your Captain marching up to the Crystal Palace to complain about you for apologizing, unsolicited, for his/her behavior.

The ATC tape, if you I downloaded it, may come in handy for your defense if your Captain desires(ed) to initiate disciplinary actions against you.

Just cause you would be that ********* CA, doesnt mean everyone else is.

captjns 06-12-2016 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 2143927)
Just cause you would be that ********* CA, doesnt mean everyone else is.

I guess you like to post just to post without substance... Just saying:rolleyes:.... good on you.

Vital Signs 06-12-2016 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 2143861)
Oh no, now you've done it. Insensitive, sexist, politically offensive, and in direct violation of the Moderator's edict. This confluence of floating jetsam will surely be met with a stern and stout warning. ;)

He should be expecting a visit from the Dream Police.

Swedish Blender 06-13-2016 09:24 AM

From the cargo section, I think this qualifies as an all time winner.
He is a UPS management pilot who also happened to be hired at EAL in 89.


Originally Posted by aflouisville (Post 2144298)
During the Teamster strike I proudly crossed IPA and Teamster picket lines. They were both scum.


WHACKMASTER 06-13-2016 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 2144343)
From the cargo section, I think this qualifies as an all time winner.
He is a UPS management pilot who also happened to be hired at EAL in 89.

If they were scum what does that make this piece of garbage?

Realtalk 06-13-2016 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2144370)
If they were scum what does that make this piece of garbage?

Lower from-under scum cheese bag

captjns 06-13-2016 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Realtalk (Post 2144394)
Lower from-under scum cheese bag

Is that worse than "From Under Cheese "?😠

727C47 06-13-2016 12:51 PM

I think he is a troll , that's way too over the top even for a scab, most try to keep a low profile, he's trolling, trying to spin everyone up and succeeding. : )

Alfred E Newman 06-13-2016 03:54 PM

New Item for the peanut gallery:

Somebody tell me that the hilarious PA accidentally made on Guard this afternoon at about 15:15 (or thereabouts) somewhere over coastal N. Carolina by Delta extolling the awesomeness of their carrier qualified, 168 (or however many) carrier landings, veteran crew wasn't staged. It was too ridiculous to be true. The deluge of abuse and cat-calling that followed it was as unbelievable as the PA itself, and I usually ignore abuse of 121.5. Even my relatively staid captain was laughing.

blastoff 06-13-2016 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman (Post 2144550)
New Item for the peanut gallery:

Somebody tell me that the hilarious PA accidentally made on Guard this afternoon at about 15:15 (or thereabouts) somewhere over coastal N. Carolina by Delta extolling the awesomeness of their carrier qualified, 168 (or however many) carrier landings, veteran crew wasn't staged. It was too ridiculous to be true. The deluge of abuse and cat-calling that followed it was as unbelievable as the PA itself, and I usually ignore abuse of 121.5. Even my relatively staid captain was laughing.

Not an accident, third time in a month. Someone thinks its funny to do the same joke (fake PA) over and over.

captjns 06-13-2016 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman (Post 2144550)
New Item for the peanut gallery:

Somebody tell me that the hilarious PA accidentally made on Guard this afternoon at about 15:15 (or thereabouts) somewhere over coastal N. Carolina by Delta extolling the awesomeness of their carrier qualified, 168 (or however many) carrier landings, veteran crew wasn't staged. It was too ridiculous to be true. The deluge of abuse and cat-calling that followed it was as unbelievable as the PA itself, and I usually ignore abuse of 121.5. Even my relatively staid captain was laughing.

Just another double breasted admiral trailing the leading edge of technology whose a legend in his own mind. That's all... nothing else to read. Besides himself and the other groupies, who gives a rat's a$$ about the carrier landings with exception of the landing ang grabbing the third wire of course.:rolleyes: time to give the carrier landings a rest or is it arrest.

WhiskeyDelta 06-13-2016 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman (Post 2144550)
New Item for the peanut gallery:



Somebody tell me that the hilarious PA accidentally made on Guard this afternoon at about 15:15 (or thereabouts) somewhere over coastal N. Carolina by Delta extolling the awesomeness of their carrier qualified, 168 (or however many) carrier landings, veteran crew wasn't staged. It was too ridiculous to be true. The deluge of abuse and cat-calling that followed it was as unbelievable as the PA itself, and I usually ignore abuse of 121.5. Even my relatively staid captain was laughing.



Word is a few tools at CommutAir have created a game to mock Delta pilots on guard. That speech has been popping up on too many forums for it to be the same accidental broadcast.


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Dolphinflyer 06-13-2016 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144612)
Just another double breasted admiral trailing the leading edge of technology whose a legend in his own mind. That's all... nothing else to read. Besides himself and the other groupies, who gives a rat's a$$ about the carrier landings with exception of the landing ang grabbing the third wire of course.:rolleyes: time to give the carrier landings a rest or is it arrest.


BS, it's not Delta, it's some little dweeb in his RJ running around the eastern US. It was actually well done and funny the first few times, but him and his copycats have worn out their welcome by endlessly repeating the same joke.

I've heard the same crap 3 times and I rarely get north of the FL/GA border.

Wouldn't recommend the same guys trying it when moving to mainline. It would be the last leg with me and I'd suggest it be the last leg with the company, but that would be someone else's decision.

NoAccoutrements 06-13-2016 05:48 PM

I care. Military pilots are heroes. Landing on a ship, or on some piece of dirt with NVGs in the middle of the night, or even successfully completing a routine air-to-air refueling operation requires skill and training far beyond what I'll ever experience as an airline pilot. Heck, all of that doesn't even include the real stress those pilots deal with on-mission.

Hats off to the military folks. It's just a PA, down that cognac and turn up the volume on your headphones if you don't like it.

Respect.

captjns 06-13-2016 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements (Post 2144625)
I care. Military pilots are heroes. Landing on a ship, or on some piece of dirt with NVGs in the middle of the night, or even successfully completing a routine air-to-air refueling operation requires skill and training far beyond what I'll ever experience as an airline pilot. Heck, all of that doesn't even include the real stress those pilots deal with on-mission.

Hats off to the military folks. It's just a PA, down that cognac and turn up the volume on your headphones if you don't like it.

Respect.

Groupie!!!!!! use that tissue to wipe that brown spot off the old shnazola. Done a wee bit more exciting flying in 6 Continents. How many remember good old Kai Tak with those 40kts x-wind landings with pi$$ing down rain. Now that was fun. But I don't need to relate my 40+ years experience to the folks in the back or anyone else for that matter who really don't give a crap. That's what the bar is for after the day of terrifying feats of commercial aviation after shooting a coupled CATIII Autoland Approach. That is of course if anyone cares to listen to the "There I was" stories.

deadseal 06-13-2016 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144628)
Groupie!!!!!! use that tissue to wipe that brown spot off the old shnazola. Done a wee bit more exciting flying in 6 Continents. How many remember good old Kai Tak with those 40kts x-wind landings with pi$$ing down rain. Now that was fun. But I don't need to relate my 40+ years experience to the folks in the back or anyone else for that matter who really don't give a crap. That's what the bar is for after the day of terrifying feats of commercial aviation after shooting a coupled CATIII Autoland Approach. That is of course if anyone cares to listen to the "There I was" stories.

Dude, it was a made up PA. You just got trolled so hard. You sound like you have low self esteem. (By the way you just did the exact thing you claimed to hate by talking about stupid landings in some stupid place).

80ktsClamp 06-13-2016 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144612)
Just another double breasted admiral trailing the leading edge of technology whose a legend in his own mind. That's all... nothing else to read. Besides himself and the other groupies, who gives a rat's a$$ about the carrier landings with exception of the landing ang grabbing the third wire of course. time to give the carrier landings a rest or is it arrest.


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144628)
Groupie!!!!!! use that tissue to wipe that brown spot off the old shnazola. Done a wee bit more exciting flying in 6 Continents. How many remember good old Kai Tak with those 40kts x-wind landings with pi$$ing down rain. Now that was fun. But I don't need to relate my 40+ years experience to the folks in the back or anyone else for that matter who really don't give a crap. That's what the bar is for after the day of terrifying feats of commercial aviation after shooting a coupled CATIII Autoland Approach. That is of course if anyone cares to listen to the "There I was" stories.

Yikes.

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captjns 06-13-2016 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2144648)
Dude, it was a made up PA. You just got trolled so hard. You sound like you have low self esteem. (By the way you just did the exact thing you claimed to hate by talking about stupid landings in some stupid place).

On the contrary sport. My PAs are about the journey and destination WX and that's it. The pax couldn't give a rat's patoot about my exploits with Hoover, Lindbergh, Blario, or others... Do you have the need to share your past with the folks stuck I your tube? If so... whose got the low esteem issue?

By the way sport, is the low self esteem comment a canned post filler comment?

at6d 06-13-2016 11:17 PM

I was there and heard it. It was awesome.

The replies ranged from "my helmet bag had more traps than you," to "you're an idiot!"

We were both laughing over it--I hadn't heard it was a fake until now but damn it was funny.

CheapTrick 06-14-2016 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144692)
On the contrary sport. My PAs are about the journey and destination WX and that's it. The pax couldn't give a rat's patoot about my exploits with Hoover, Lindbergh, Blario, or others... Do you have the need to share your past with the folks stuck I your tube? If so... whose got the low esteem issue?

By the way sport, is the low self esteem comment a canned post filler comment?

You flew with Blario? Was he Popeye's nemesis?

deadseal 06-14-2016 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144692)
On the contrary sport. My PAs are about the journey and destination WX and that's it. The pax couldn't give a rat's patoot about my exploits with Hoover, Lindbergh, Blario, or others... Do you have the need to share your past with the folks stuck I your tube? If so... whose got the low esteem issue?

By the way sport, is the low self esteem comment a canned post filler comment?

To answer you:
No, no, and no

I have 2 questions for you:
1. Why do you keep calling people "sport"?
2. Do you really think that you have"done a wee bit more exciting flying on 6 continents" when compared to combat missions or say a night red flag as mission commander in a viper? Or night low level in a Herc?

Are drunk or crazy when you rant?

NERD 06-14-2016 06:13 AM

Has to be fake. The two times I have witnessed said PA, it was before pushback. Maverick and Iceman used the FA interphone and stood at the cockpit door in full glory. Slight pot belly and comb over to top things off. To be fair, one was Navy, the other USAFA.

Alfred E Newman 06-14-2016 07:10 AM

Dang! I sure opened a can of worms...
Well, at least my suspicions were confirmed. I got a laugh out of it for sure, but that's because it was the first time I had heard it.

FmrFreightDog 06-14-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144692)
On the contrary sport. My PAs are about the journey and destination WX and that's it. The pax couldn't give a rat's patoot about my exploits with Hoover, Lindbergh, Blario, or others... Do you have the need to share your past with the folks stuck I your tube? If so... whose got the low esteem issue?

By the way sport, is the low self esteem comment a canned post filler comment?

Anyone want odds on whether captjns is a 30 year old living in mom's basement with a bad-ass Microsoft Flight Simulator setup?

NoAccoutrements 06-14-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 2144889)
Anyone want odds on whether captjns is a 30 year old living in mom's basement with a bad-ass Microsoft Flight Simulator setup?

He is probably a very sad and lonely individual in real life.

Let's give him the recognition he deserves for those hard-won victories across 6 continents.

"In addition to an extra ration of breadsticks, we the people of Airline Pilot Forums award captjns, in recognition of bravery and courage in the face of cross wind landings, the Medal of Participation."

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duece12345 06-14-2016 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2144692)
On the contrary sport. My PAs are about the journey and destination WX and that's it. The pax couldn't give a rat's patoot about my exploits with Hoover, Lindbergh, Blario, or others... Do you have the need to share your past with the folks stuck I your tube? If so... whose got the low esteem issue?

By the way sport, is the low self esteem comment a canned post filler comment?

100% agree. No pax gives a sh!t about how many combat hours you have (yes I had a captain that said it). The military guys that do this need to stop. And I am a military guy with plenty of combat hours. Same goes for hrs flown, carrier landings, .......

deadseal 06-14-2016 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 2144904)
100% agree. No pax gives a sh!t about how many combat hours you have (yes I had a captain that said it). The military guys that do this need to stop. And I am a military guy with plenty of combat hours. Same goes for hrs flown, carrier landings, .......

Thank you captain obvious.....that's not the issue here. It's this dude ranting at an event that didn't occur, Insulting someone for saying they respect the sacrifice and complexity of military flying, and then topping it off with having the balls to say that airliner flying is as dangerous/complex/intense as military flying. It's just not true, and anyone who says that just sounds plain foolish/ jealous/ naive. Of course there are specific events that will raise your heart level and test your skills in any airplane, but we all know what I'm talking about as a whole. I respect both sides of the coin, civilian and military. One does not make a person better than another, but give me a break.

duece12345 06-14-2016 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2144942)
Thank you captain obvious.....that's not the issue here. It's this dude ranting at an event that didn't occur, Insulting someone for saying they respect the sacrifice and complexity of military flying, and then topping it off with having the balls to say that airliner flying is as dangerous/complex/intense as military flying. It's just not true, and anyone who says that just sounds plain foolish/ jealous/ naive. Of course there are specific events that will raise your heart level and test your skills in any airplane, but we all know what I'm talking about as a whole. I respect both sides of the coin, civilian and military. One does not make a person better than another, but give me a break.

I hear ya. I am just saying the dude speaks the truth in the PA aspect.

deadseal 06-14-2016 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 2145015)
I hear ya. I am just saying the dude speaks the truth in the PA aspect.

absolutely...no one cares.....hell I don't care and I'm sitting next to the guy. The only person I ever actually didnt like flying with, was an f14 guy that just wouldn't let anyone forget it....very annoying.

captjns 06-14-2016 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2144853)
To answer you:
No, no, and no

I have 2 questions for you:
1. Why do you keep calling people "sport"?
2. Do you really think that you have"done a wee bit more exciting flying on 6 continents" when compared to combat missions or say a night red flag as mission commander in a viper? Or night low level in a Herc?

Are drunk or crazy when you rant?

Exciting is all relative to the time and environment. But there you go with your bragging about your military flying. At the end of the day deadseal, one should be comfortable enough in their own skin where they don't have to keep reliving the past with those who really don't care. Go ahead and re-up if you miss that type of flying.

"Captain Obvious"? What's that all about? Don't you feel that condescending to say the least?

Chill out and enjoy the day. This is an informal board, nothing to get your knickers in a twist over.

N19906 06-14-2016 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 2144780)
You flew with Blario? Was he Popeye's nemesis?

I think the dude means Blériot.
But hey, who knows, (or cares), anymore? These mini-eruptions are funny!

deadseal 06-14-2016 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2145084)
Exciting is all relative to the time and environment. But there you go with your bragging about your military flying. At the end of the day deadseal, one should be comfortable enough in their own skin where they don't have to keep reliving the past with those who really don't care. Go ahead and re-up if you miss that type of flying.

"Captain Obvious"? What's that all about? Don't you feel that condescending to say the least?

Chill out and enjoy the day. This is an informal board, nothing to get your knickers in a twist over.

I'm as chill as a cucumber. I'm wearing a kimono dog. Thanks for not answering either question though captain crazy pants

Sa227capt 06-14-2016 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2144942)
Thank you captain obvious.....that's not the issue here. It's this dude ranting at an event that didn't occur, Insulting someone for saying they respect the sacrifice and complexity of military flying, and then topping it off with having the balls to say that airliner flying is as dangerous/complex/intense as military flying. It's just not true, and anyone who says that just sounds plain foolish/ jealous/ naive. Of course there are specific events that will raise your heart level and test your skills in any airplane, but we all know what I'm talking about as a whole. I respect both sides of the coin, civilian and military. One does not make a person better than another, but give me a break.

You respect civilian pilots? Reading you above posts and shows a holier than though attitude with complete disregard for a civilian pilot and then you end it with the word respect. All after you explain how the military flying is harder. Give me a break with the respect thing man. Personally, I could care less. In all walks of life it's better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Actions and abilities prove what kind for pilot you are regardless of background or garbage spewed on a web board...

Sliceback 06-14-2016 05:07 PM

Fighter class A rate is approx 5.0
USAF overall was 1.12 in. 2015
US scheduled service for larger than 10 seats was 0.16

Yeah, fighters are about 5+ times more dangerous than the overall USAF rates and about 30x the civilian risk.

Deadseal is right, fighters are way more dangerous than airline flying. Over a 20 yr career you've got about a 10-15% chance destroying an airplane and a slightly lower odds of killing yourself.

That's not counting the roughly every 100 hr 'oh sh*t!' moment that doesn't make the official record.


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