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07-31-2018, 08:17 AM
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It’s someone else’s fault and you’re so much more clever and are going to fix it all. Thanks for showing up. A round of applause and a selfie for you. And a participation trophy.
07-31-2018, 08:25 AM
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07-31-2018, 09:22 AM
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07-31-2018, 09:23 AM
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07-31-2018, 09:24 AM
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My responsibility ends when the parking brake is set and the engines are shut down.
Last edited by Floobs; 07-31-2018 at 09:35 AM.
07-31-2018, 10:54 AM
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I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual
. Hey maybe our DO can insert that language into our FOM. Until then, my duties and responsibilities to my crewmembers are in affect from the time I report for duty until I sign off back at base.
07-31-2018, 12:15 PM
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Can you post the provision contained in your company manual that verifies your statement in the definition of the duty and responsibility of a captain, or first officer???
I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual. Hey maybe our DO can insert that language into our FOM. Until then, my duties and responsibilities to my crewmembers are in affect from the time I report for duty until I sign off back at base.
I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual
. Hey maybe our DO can insert that language into our FOM. Until then, my duties and responsibilities to my crewmembers are in affect from the time I report for duty until I sign off back at base.Boarding or deplaning. If the plane is powered down (over two hours) or just secured we are free to leave. They wanted to start boarding without us being there so they put that in there about deplaning as well.
07-31-2018, 12:21 PM
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Yes other airlines as well, including DAL. Don't have to be there for boarding/de-planing as long as the A/C is properly secured.
07-31-2018, 01:23 PM
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Can you post the provision contained in your company manual that verifies your statement in the definition of the duty and responsibility of a captain, or first officer???
I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual.
I gotta tell ya Floobs, I’ve never seen that statement in any FOM, GOM, COM of any carrier I’ve flown for, both foreign and domestic. I’m impressed that the FAA would approve that language in your manual
.Why would the FAA care what a company puts in it's manual about how company employees interact while not aboard the aircraft? Once the the passengers are, deplaned, the logbook signed, the aircraft is powered down and transferred to the ground crews and the crew is in the terminal, walking away, why would the FAA care if the GOM instructs them to all hold hands to the hotel, or scatter to the 4 winds? The FAA has no compelling interest nor jurisdiction at that point.
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