Tool of the day
05-04-2018, 07:14 PM
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File a report with your company’s jump seat coordinator if you think you have a legitimate gripe.
05-04-2018, 09:23 PM
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Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.
05-04-2018, 11:31 PM
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Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.
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05-05-2018, 05:55 AM
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Yeah, showing up last minute is fairly relevant context. Sure, I've shown up way late because I'd just stepped off another flight, and been pleasantly surprised that they took the extra effort to get me on the plane. But it's whole 'nother thing to adopt the attitude that the captain has the obligation to override his co-worker who is just following a reasonable policy, potentially causing the agent to redo work already completed.
05-05-2018, 07:19 AM
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That's fine, and I too have taken delays and such to get a jumpseater on when I could have more easily not done so. It's a huge leap from doing that out of your own good will; to you having an obligation to do that, and you're "tool of the day" if you don't.
05-05-2018, 08:40 AM
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Whew, tough crowd. It has far less to do with me not getting on than his meek response that made it 'toolish'. A simple, "hey man sorry wish we could help you out" would've sufficed.
I've done all manner of things to get folks on over the years and the two times I couldn't I apologized and told them exactly why. One of which response qualifies for ultimate tool label but we'll save that story for another day.
So if I'm the tool here for expecting this guy to at least offer some semblance of empathy or professional courtesy about a fellow pilot getting home so be it.
I've done all manner of things to get folks on over the years and the two times I couldn't I apologized and told them exactly why. One of which response qualifies for ultimate tool label but we'll save that story for another day.
So if I'm the tool here for expecting this guy to at least offer some semblance of empathy or professional courtesy about a fellow pilot getting home so be it.
05-16-2018, 12:12 PM
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