150 mpg VW Hybrid-Max Range 800 miles
03-08-2012, 07:12 AM
#61
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
Apologies in advance for indulging in the vanity of quoting myself.
...
The quote I liked best was from the aol article:
"Bipartisan bills intended to boost the use of natural gas as a fuel source have languished in Congress, but use of the fuel has picked up regardless and plans are spreading to utilize it for a number of applications."
WW
...
The quote I liked best was from the aol article:
"Bipartisan bills intended to boost the use of natural gas as a fuel source have languished in Congress, but use of the fuel has picked up regardless and plans are spreading to utilize it for a number of applications."
WW
03-08-2012, 07:34 AM
#62
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
It is much safer to be told what to do, and to obey those orders to the letter, after all you don't want to actually be held responsible for anything.
Following orders has been the defense claimed by the most bloody criminals throughout time.
When the apparat tells us what and how things must be bought and sold, the very first thing to be bought and sold is the apparat.
Fear not citizens, place all of your faith in Diebold and Skynet, they will save us yet.
Last edited by jungle; 03-08-2012 at 08:24 AM.
03-08-2012, 09:44 AM
#64
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
Gracias AZFlyer, that is one of the funniest episodes ever, possibly too adult to run here.
My real point is that I am happy global has found a car he likes and I respect his right to do so, all of us just ask the same in return. We can all get along.
Still very excited about those magic lightbulbs! Thanks for sharing that with us global!
My real point is that I am happy global has found a car he likes and I respect his right to do so, all of us just ask the same in return. We can all get along.
Still very excited about those magic lightbulbs! Thanks for sharing that with us global!
03-08-2012, 11:51 AM
#65
Moderator
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: ATP, CFI etc.
Posts: 6,056
Although government happens to be putting lots of tax money into biofuel development, I think the latter should not be confused with other central planning buffoonery in support of non-viable green technology. Biofuel has a solid potential without any tax funding although it gets some tax dollars. It's ugly stuff, hogs water and is ten years from viability, but it really shows promise. Even fossil fuels had to be developed at one point and nothing hits the ground running from day one.
National Review, Algae Biofuel
National Review, Algae Biofuel
03-08-2012, 12:48 PM
#66
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
Like to show you some ethanol articles from the 1970's 80's, 90's and 00. When you are ready to invest your 401K in algae let me know, until then I would just as soon not borrow money from the Fed in order to invest in it.
That said I hope it works, I know oil does.
That said I hope it works, I know oil does.
03-08-2012, 01:07 PM
#67
Moderator
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: ATP, CFI etc.
Posts: 6,056
Yeah but oil has its problems too. We have had lots of oil crises over the years. It would be good to have a second source for Jet A, which is why the Air Force and Navy are deep into biofuel development. Ethanol is not an algae based biofuel, it does not compete with anything else the way ethanol does.
03-08-2012, 04:49 PM
#68
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
Ethanol must be considered a failure by any reasonable standard, between the laws, tax breaks and mandated requirements it has ended up on the scrap pile of stupid ideas.
If you have ever been to Brazil and inhaled the fumes of all those cars burning sugercane ethanol it is an interesting experience.
Cheap labor and cutting down much of the natural forest has made sugar cane and ethanol viable.
Biofuel may be viable, but I have yet to hear of anyone tapping the strategic algae reserve for political hay.
Coal liquification has both proven and actual results on a large scale.
You have to remember, the targets are quick, cheap and plenty. Right now only coal offers all three.
If you have ever been to Brazil and inhaled the fumes of all those cars burning sugercane ethanol it is an interesting experience.
Cheap labor and cutting down much of the natural forest has made sugar cane and ethanol viable.
Biofuel may be viable, but I have yet to hear of anyone tapping the strategic algae reserve for political hay.
Coal liquification has both proven and actual results on a large scale.
You have to remember, the targets are quick, cheap and plenty. Right now only coal offers all three.
03-08-2012, 07:33 PM
#69
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: seated beer curl
Posts: 406
Learn something about the world oil market and capitalism in general, then check back in.
03-08-2012, 07:43 PM
#70
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: seated beer curl
Posts: 406
You are right, we would be much better off if the masters of the universe would just declare what is good and bad, no more confusing choices. Then we could happily lap up the products of government monopolies, even though they are substandard by any measure and a private citizen would be jailed for selling the same thing.
The markets are not public policy, they are the choices made by real people and they are far more demanding and perceptive and flexible than any public policy ever could be.
Public policy has given us debt, SS, the Volt, public schools, USPS, and a host of other failures-they were of course right to saddle us all with 15 trillion in debt, we needed that, we were just too stupid to know it.
The markets are not public policy, they are the choices made by real people and they are far more demanding and perceptive and flexible than any public policy ever could be.
Public policy has given us debt, SS, the Volt, public schools, USPS, and a host of other failures-they were of course right to saddle us all with 15 trillion in debt, we needed that, we were just too stupid to know it.
The so-called markets have determined public policy since the industrial revolution. Money = power. Money = power. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
