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Old 12-13-2011, 09:13 AM
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I see some posts about Michael Mann, but if this has not been posted, it's a good watch on climate change vs. those that do not accept:

TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube

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Old 12-13-2011, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
I see some posts about Michael Mann, but if this has not been posted, it's a good watch on climate change vs. those that do not accept:

TEDxPSU - Michael Mann - A Look Into Our Climate: Past To Present To Future - YouTube

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You may want to refer to the first post in this thread. Mann is both a fraud and a flim flam artist, his "science" was discredited by actual data.

See also: Hockey Stick graph-Mann's famous blunder in the world of climate prediction, long since regarded as pure fiction and again, proven incorrect by actual data.

Believe whatever you like, but we are better served by actual science than grant grubbing and emotional causes.
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Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable

We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable

We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
Climate is the same thing as hurricanes? Did you really just make that jump?
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Climate is the same thing as hurricanes? Did you really just make that jump?
Computer models cant predict the weather 9 months out but you guys think they can predict the temperature 50 years out. Talk about leaps.

So you dont think hurricanes are part of the climate of the SE region of the US or say any Island in the Caribbean? Interesting.
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Old 12-14-2011, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Hurricane experts admit they can?t predict hurricanes early; December forecasts too unreliable

We cant model the climate 9 months out but we can 50 years out right?
Depends on what kind of 'cooked up 'numbers are being put into the computer and it only took these guys 20 years to figure it.



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THIS JUST IN>>>


Shock as retreat of Arctic sea ice releases deadly greenhouse gas - Climate Change - Environment - The Independent
Drat you, Nature!!
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The important question is, how can we blame Bush?
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The solution is obvious, we must kill Gaia before she kills us.
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Drat you, Nature!!
This is just one of the many feedback systems that is so troubling.

Depending on what article you read, methane is 20 to 25 times more efficient at trapping heat than carbon. As the environment warms, the permafrost is melted releasing more methane which warms the environment further melting more permafrost, etcetera.

If you haven't watched the "How it all Ends" series I linked to eariler, the gradual change in climate we used to believe would take place over hundreds of years isn't the concern. It is the cataclysmic and sudden shift from feedback loops becoming their own self sustaining engine that will get us.
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