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Throwing General Butler under the bus now?

You went from "what he said in a time when a real general spoke his mind" to what "Smedley didn't mention...because he was running for the senate at the time."
Smooth transition!

By the time Butler ran for the Senate in 1932, his antagonism toward big business
and anti Wall Street rhetoric was so well known, he was an embarrassment to the
Hoover administration. In your estimation, what exactly was the general hiding
because of his run for office?

FDXLAG

Green on the outside Red on the inside.

FDXLAG

Winter is Coming: Alaska's Deep Freeze Has Begun - SKYE on AOL

I wonder if we have a model that will predict ice in December.

jungle

Meanwhile, back to science:


"Last week The Mail on Sunday provoked an international storm by publishing a new official world temperature graph showing there has been no global warming since 1997.

The figures came from a database called Hadcrut 4 and were issued by the Met Office and the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at East Anglia University."

Worldwide the East Anglia Climatic Research Unit is the most respected and largest study of climate data.

Full story:

Update and confirmation of ‘Global warming stopped 16 years ago’ aka ‘the pause’ | Watts Up With That?

jungle

It originated with the ancients, but it has become an artform in the last century.

"In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. Things like the continuance of British rule in India, the Russian purges and deportations, the dropping of the atom bombs on Japan, can indeed be defended, but only by arguments which are too brutal for most people to face, and which do not square with the professed aims of the political parties. Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenseless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements. Such phraseology is needed if one wants to name things without calling up mental pictures of them. Consider for instance some comfortable English professor defending Russian totalitarianism. He cannot say outright, "I believe in killing off your opponents when you can get good results by doing so." Probably, therefore, he will say something like this:

"While freely conceding that the Soviet regime exhibits certain features which the humanitarian may be inclined to deplore, we must, I think, agree that a certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of transitional periods, and that the rigors which the Russian people have been called upon to undergo have been amply justified in the sphere of concrete achievement."


Full article from 1946: https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

JamesNoBrakes

Well if you have to know, it's been abnormally dry here in AK for the entire fall. We only got about 4" of snow, that went away, and then finally another 5" over this last weekend, but it's been so dry that the temperature dropped big time. Last year at this time there was much more snow and temps were better regulated. I've been snowboarding over the last month, but it's sad that it's all man-made snow and we live in AK.

DYNASTY HVY

Very good !

I wonder what the reply would be if a High School student asked their teacher the origins of P.C and why they thought it's acceptable in a free country given the history of P.C.
Maybe some of you parents in here might want to ask your kid to try this .
Sorry for the thread drift but I think this goes hand in hand with the so-called climate farce.


Ally

FDXLAG

You should have saved some from last year. Alaska’s cruel winter: Anchorage sets snowfall record - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post

todd1200

Jungle, can you find any nationally or internationally accredited scientific organiztions that refute the reality of man-made global warming? I believe even the American Association of Petroleum Geologists has abandoned the skeptical camp. I know there are plenty of bloggers who advocate any stance a person could dream up, but are there any legitimate scientific groups that claim that human activity does not contribute to long-term global warming? I don't mean those who acknowledge the complex nature of weather patterns and the uncertainty inherent in the analysis of such complex systems; I mean groups that so fiercely deny the possibility of global warming.

jungle

The Met Office and the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at East Anglia University is probably the number one Climate research group in the world. They have clearly stated that there has been no global warming for 16 years.

I don't deny the possibility of MMGW, it is just that there is no real evidence of it. Theories abound though.

It is very obvious that groups like the UN have a great stake in collecting money for many causes, justified or not.

We do know that vast and lengthy periods of climate change happened prior to man's arrival and they will continue.
What part of this is natural and what part may be caused by man is the question many seek to answer.

What we do know is that Earth has been warming for about 15,000 years and this warming has been very kind to humans.
Trying to slice off a decade or three and state an overall trend doesn't mean much against this background.

Theories are just dandy, but if the data does not match they are worthless.