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Old 10-25-2011, 05:07 PM
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Both maybe? Did y'all (Navy/Marines) go out and practice go-arounds during carrier operations?
Nope - wave-offs are practiced at the field during FCLP (Field Carrier Landing Practice). I'm sure that Grumble will correct me if I am wrong but I'm never heard of wave-offs being practiced actually at the boat - especially in close. An inflight engagement is no laughing matter. There are plenty of other factors that necessitate a wave-off for real.
IF this video is the real deal, they took an awful chance as just such an event with the hook down and pulling the nose up at the last second thus lowering the hook risking an inflight.

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Old 10-25-2011, 05:30 PM
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And that was just a Tuesday afternoon for the pilot . !
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:01 PM
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When I saw the title of the thread, I thought you were talking about me. Imagine my further confusion when I saw references to "inflight engagement??"

Seriously, I have a lot of respect for the courage it takes to land anything on a moving postage stamp in the dark. I know I wouldn't be able to do something like that, but quite grateful there are others who can.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
.....IF this video is the real deal, they took an awful chance as just such an event with the hook down and pulling the nose up at the last second thus lowering the hook risking an inflight.

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It's real; I've seen this one before. I looked up the history of Russia's boats, and I was right...their first real fixed-wing carrier was not launched until 1972. However, it was really more of a helicopter-carrier; the aircraft were Yak-38s, a Russian "Harrierski" of limited range and performance.

The first truly fixed-wing combat carrier was not until 1985. It carried modified MiG-29s and Yak-38s. I'm not sure if they use a steam-catapault, but they used the ski-jump ramp as they either are short-decked, or not catapault-assisted.

Right now they only have one carrier in service. Some variant of the Flanker (as shown in the video) has been used in recent years (probably because of the superior thrust to weight that would make it easier to takeoff from the short deck).

The point is, the Russians have a relatively short history doing this, especially with high-performance jets. I think the video is of sea-trials of the Flanker. They were learning.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Nope - wave-offs are practiced at the field during FCLP (Field Carrier Landing Practice). I'm sure that Grumble will correct me if I am wrong but I'm never heard of wave-offs being practiced actually at the boat - especially in close. An inflight engagement is no laughing matter. There are plenty of other factors that necessitate a wave-off for real.
Yeah, I was thinking it might be a little too risky for a training exercise, but I'm just a slob-vilian pie-lot.

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IF this video is the real deal, they took an awful chance as just such an event with the hook down and pulling the nose up at the last second thus lowering the hook risking an inflight.

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I'm no expert but that video looks pretty real. But then again, I've been fooled before. Still, real or no real, pretty gutsy move. Balls of Russian steel.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by vagabond:1075032
When I saw the title of the thread, I thought you were talking about me. Imagine my further confusion when I saw references to "inflight engagement??"

Seriously, I have a lot of respect for the courage it takes to land anything on a moving postage stamp in the dark. I know I wouldn't be able to do something like that, but quite grateful there are others who can.
I can understand how you misinterpreted that By the way, they released the video of your Skydiving Sex Stunt. PM me for a link.

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Old 10-25-2011, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Training in what way? For carrier operations or training in go-arounds?
Training for the emergency boat-towing procedure. Snag wire with hook, light burners, and all hands hang on.....
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Old 10-25-2011, 08:30 PM
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I'm no expert but that video looks pretty real. But then again, I've been fooled before. Still, real or no real, pretty gutsy move. Balls of Russian steel.
In soviet Russia, plane flies you.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:29 AM
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Training for the emergency boat-towing procedure. Snag wire with hook, light burners, and all hands hang on.....
Having looked inside a post Soviet MiG 23 (admittedly a Cuban MiG), all I can say is those boys will brave anything to fight for their country.

I got to look inside this one when I was stationed in Key West.
Cuban MIG Eludes U.S. Radar Screen, Lands at Key West - Los Angeles Times
There were four Jesus bolts (possibly explosive, I am not a fighter guy) that held the ejection seat in place. One of the bolts was gone and replaced with a bent over 16 penny nail.

Those Cubans may be my enemy, but I got to tip my hat to them for flying a fighter held together with bailing wire.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LongFlight
In soviet Russia, plane flies you.
I was thinking more along the lines of Soviet Planes are so ugly the earth repels them!
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