I had a beer today
10-03-2011, 09:39 AM
#71
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 238
I had a beer when I got home today too. I thought about the fact that I've never worked a holiday, haven't done an overnight in 6 years, work an average of 10 days a month, and should make around $120K this year. Yes I work at a regional. Its all about where you work, what kind of contract you have, and a little luck. Yes you have to be pretty senior for this to be your story, but hey, it was worth the wait for me. I should go to a major, I'm young enough, but man this makes it tough. This is why its so sad to see Sh*tty companies getting larger because people are willing to go there and make less because "hey, its just a regional. You have to get in, get your time, and get out". Enjoy the race to the bottom newbies! I'm sure this career is going to be excellent in 10 years by the time you get your "dream job".
10-03-2011, 09:46 AM
#72
Thuggin it out
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Rollin' Down tha 405
Posts: 2,571
A couple nights ago I had three 24oz NewCastles...I know it's not gourmet or anything but it was DEFINITELY needed after last month's doing NOTHING and not breaking guarantee.
Now I'm depressed because I've gained 28 pounds since coming back....I'm wondering if it's worth it at all.
Now I'm depressed because I've gained 28 pounds since coming back....I'm wondering if it's worth it at all.
10-03-2011, 11:49 AM
#73
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: B737 CA
Posts: 1,518
10-03-2011, 12:43 PM
#75
Eats shoots and leaves...
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Didactic Synthetic Aviation Experience Provider
Posts: 849
I almost threw up my Bofferding (to keep on the positive side of the thread) when I read that. Now I need another to try and forget one of the reasons why this miserable industry is where it is.
Thanks. It's good to know I'm making industry leading pay...
for 1970. Will it never end?
Thanks. It's good to know I'm making industry leading pay...
for 1970. Will it never end?
10-03-2011, 01:32 PM
#76
Enjoys working weekend
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 511
We need people with your attitude to leave this industry, our only hope to clean up mess.
Good Bye Mesa.
10-04-2011, 01:21 AM
#77
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
A steady paycheck of $1150 per month? And a uniform you can't afford to replace when you get the Saab Skunk Stripe down your back while inspecting the wheel wells?
Look dude, I flew 135 for over a decade before selling out to join the regionals (only because 135 jobs are so tenuous and I hoped to get somebody to walk my resume into a mainline HR office.... and that ain't gonna happen while I am still middle aged).
If you, like me, have chosen this wh#re as a wife, then get real. The job is about finding a reliable company that will pay a reasonable wage and treat you like a human. The sexiness is gone. IT"S A JOB! True, we have a better view than most offices, but IT'S A JOB! You aren't gonna have a bunch of 20 something stews drooling over you. You are gonna be a guy grinding out a living. Yeah, this job has some perks.... as does any job. But it also has its drawbacks: you WILL spend much of your time away from your family, companies fail at the drop of a hat, furloughs happen at every downturn, and you are dependent on the wisdom of the CEO. I don't mind being on the road 15-20 days each month, but many do (just see how many folks whine about missing little Billy's birthday).
I am not trying to discourage you. Truly! But I am trying to give you a dose of reality. Flying is alot like being a football player. Everybody played in high school. A bunch played in college. And a very few made it to the pros. Of those few, there is only one Joe Montana or Brett Favre. Yeah, after putting in 20-30 years, you might make it to fly a triple seven twice a month and make 300k. But for each of those guys, there are a thousand who won't break 100k.
Flying is an addiction. If you are willing to give up your relationships, are willing to make a meager wage, live where the company tells you (or commute), and do whatever it takes to survive, you might make it.
It's just like the football player who spends eight hours per day building his body followed by another eight hours studying the playbook and films, and then knows his career will be over by the time he is 35.
If you know the sacrifices you will make to be part of this industry and still choose it, fine. But if you choose to be a wh@re because you like sex, you will find there are a zillion of old, fat, ugly women who want you and maybe one hottie that you get to play with occasionally.
Look dude, I flew 135 for over a decade before selling out to join the regionals (only because 135 jobs are so tenuous and I hoped to get somebody to walk my resume into a mainline HR office.... and that ain't gonna happen while I am still middle aged).
If you, like me, have chosen this wh#re as a wife, then get real. The job is about finding a reliable company that will pay a reasonable wage and treat you like a human. The sexiness is gone. IT"S A JOB! True, we have a better view than most offices, but IT'S A JOB! You aren't gonna have a bunch of 20 something stews drooling over you. You are gonna be a guy grinding out a living. Yeah, this job has some perks.... as does any job. But it also has its drawbacks: you WILL spend much of your time away from your family, companies fail at the drop of a hat, furloughs happen at every downturn, and you are dependent on the wisdom of the CEO. I don't mind being on the road 15-20 days each month, but many do (just see how many folks whine about missing little Billy's birthday).
I am not trying to discourage you. Truly! But I am trying to give you a dose of reality. Flying is alot like being a football player. Everybody played in high school. A bunch played in college. And a very few made it to the pros. Of those few, there is only one Joe Montana or Brett Favre. Yeah, after putting in 20-30 years, you might make it to fly a triple seven twice a month and make 300k. But for each of those guys, there are a thousand who won't break 100k.
Flying is an addiction. If you are willing to give up your relationships, are willing to make a meager wage, live where the company tells you (or commute), and do whatever it takes to survive, you might make it.
It's just like the football player who spends eight hours per day building his body followed by another eight hours studying the playbook and films, and then knows his career will be over by the time he is 35.
If you know the sacrifices you will make to be part of this industry and still choose it, fine. But if you choose to be a wh@re because you like sex, you will find there are a zillion of old, fat, ugly women who want you and maybe one hottie that you get to play with occasionally.
10-07-2011, 12:07 PM
#79
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Student Pilot
Posts: 2,277
A steady paycheck of $1150 per month? And a uniform you can't afford to replace when you get the Saab Skunk Stripe down your back while inspecting the wheel wells?
Look dude, I flew 135 for over a decade before selling out to join the regionals (only because 135 jobs are so tenuous and I hoped to get somebody to walk my resume into a mainline HR office.... and that ain't gonna happen while I am still middle aged).
If you, like me, have chosen this wh#re as a wife, then get real. The job is about finding a reliable company that will pay a reasonable wage and treat you like a human. The sexiness is gone. IT"S A JOB! True, we have a better view than most offices, but IT'S A JOB! You aren't gonna have a bunch of 20 something stews drooling over you. You are gonna be a guy grinding out a living. Yeah, this job has some perks.... as does any job. But it also has its drawbacks: you WILL spend much of your time away from your family, companies fail at the drop of a hat, furloughs happen at every downturn, and you are dependent on the wisdom of the CEO. I don't mind being on the road 15-20 days each month, but many do (just see how many folks whine about missing little Billy's birthday).
I am not trying to discourage you. Truly! But I am trying to give you a dose of reality. Flying is alot like being a football player. Everybody played in high school. A bunch played in college. And a very few made it to the pros. Of those few, there is only one Joe Montana or Brett Favre. Yeah, after putting in 20-30 years, you might make it to fly a triple seven twice a month and make 300k. But for each of those guys, there are a thousand who won't break 100k.
Flying is an addiction. If you are willing to give up your relationships, are willing to make a meager wage, live where the company tells you (or commute), and do whatever it takes to survive, you might make it.
It's just like the football player who spends eight hours per day building his body followed by another eight hours studying the playbook and films, and then knows his career will be over by the time he is 35.
If you know the sacrifices you will make to be part of this industry and still choose it, fine. But if you choose to be a wh@re because you like sex, you will find there are a zillion of old, fat, ugly women who want you and maybe one hottie that you get to play with occasionally.
Look dude, I flew 135 for over a decade before selling out to join the regionals (only because 135 jobs are so tenuous and I hoped to get somebody to walk my resume into a mainline HR office.... and that ain't gonna happen while I am still middle aged).
If you, like me, have chosen this wh#re as a wife, then get real. The job is about finding a reliable company that will pay a reasonable wage and treat you like a human. The sexiness is gone. IT"S A JOB! True, we have a better view than most offices, but IT'S A JOB! You aren't gonna have a bunch of 20 something stews drooling over you. You are gonna be a guy grinding out a living. Yeah, this job has some perks.... as does any job. But it also has its drawbacks: you WILL spend much of your time away from your family, companies fail at the drop of a hat, furloughs happen at every downturn, and you are dependent on the wisdom of the CEO. I don't mind being on the road 15-20 days each month, but many do (just see how many folks whine about missing little Billy's birthday).
I am not trying to discourage you. Truly! But I am trying to give you a dose of reality. Flying is alot like being a football player. Everybody played in high school. A bunch played in college. And a very few made it to the pros. Of those few, there is only one Joe Montana or Brett Favre. Yeah, after putting in 20-30 years, you might make it to fly a triple seven twice a month and make 300k. But for each of those guys, there are a thousand who won't break 100k.
Flying is an addiction. If you are willing to give up your relationships, are willing to make a meager wage, live where the company tells you (or commute), and do whatever it takes to survive, you might make it.
It's just like the football player who spends eight hours per day building his body followed by another eight hours studying the playbook and films, and then knows his career will be over by the time he is 35.
If you know the sacrifices you will make to be part of this industry and still choose it, fine. But if you choose to be a wh@re because you like sex, you will find there are a zillion of old, fat, ugly women who want you and maybe one hottie that you get to play with occasionally.
Didn't know you were middle aged! I honestly thought that you were in your late 20's to early 30's and that you started flying at around 21. After reading the above post, my respect for you has increase 100 fold; not that I didn't have any b/c I always have.
Btw, that's some good advice. If certified, I'll definitely be asking for suggestions.
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