Chicks With Guns
09-28-2011, 01:30 PM
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Chicks With Guns
Not there yet, but one day, I will muster up what it takes to also pack some heat. All I got now is an extra bread knife from my old coffee shop and a golf club I found at Goodwill. Oh, and I have a 5 month old Miniature Schnauzer that I'm training to attack on command. 
?Chicks with Guns?: 15 million US women pack heat - TODAY People - TODAY.com
jungle, still trying to decide between the Ruger SP101 or Glock 26. Hoping to have my Seattle PD friend let me into the police range.
?Chicks with Guns?: 15 million US women pack heat - TODAY People - TODAY.com
jungle, still trying to decide between the Ruger SP101 or Glock 26. Hoping to have my Seattle PD friend let me into the police range.
09-28-2011, 01:39 PM
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No experience with the Ruger, but the 26 is a solid gun, and doesn't have bad recoil considering it's size. You can also load 17 mags in it which is a plus in my opinion.
I and my fiancé carry. I carry a 19 during the winter and a PPK during the summer, she carries a 19 year round.
I and my fiancé carry. I carry a 19 during the winter and a PPK during the summer, she carries a 19 year round.
09-28-2011, 01:52 PM
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Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
09-28-2011, 03:09 PM
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Not there yet, but one day, I will muster up what it takes to also pack some heat. All I got now is an extra bread knife from my old coffee shop and a golf club I found at Goodwill. Oh, and I have a 5 month old Miniature Schnauzer that I'm training to attack on command.
?Chicks with Guns?: 15 million US women pack heat - TODAY People - TODAY.com
jungle, still trying to decide between the Ruger SP101 or Glock 26. Hoping to have my Seattle PD friend let me into the police range.
?Chicks with Guns?: 15 million US women pack heat - TODAY People - TODAY.com
jungle, still trying to decide between the Ruger SP101 or Glock 26. Hoping to have my Seattle PD friend let me into the police range.
The photo album was nice:A perfect shot: Photos of women with guns explode stereotypes - books
Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
The FBI used to use revolvers and part of the entry test was to squeeze off 50 DA cycles on an S&W M13 3", the service weapon at the time, many women could not do this-and a class action suit followed along with conversion to autopistols.
Those ladies have no troubles with the current issue Glocks.
To my knowledge, no frontline agency issues a revolver anymore, and there are a lot of good reasons for this.
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09-28-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mswmsw 
Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
Very true, Jungle. But that is why I prefaced my post with the proviso "Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery....." One would at least hope that those engaged in military or LE work would fall under that description - serious student of handgunnery - (though I can tell you from first hand experience that it is not as true today as it might have been a generation ago) and will therefore hopefully get decent initial and recurrent handgun weapons training. I also have no doubt that a civilian who is - or is willing to become - a serious handgun shooter (through diligent effort and practice), can also handle a modern semi-auto pistol. My comments were primarily directed at those who are not similarly motivated, and want a handgun just for occasional plinking, and/or "lightweight" home defense, and will otherwise relegate it to (hopefully) a safe or locked container.
Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
.........I agree, under ideal conditions a .22 is an excellent trainer. On the other hand, loads of ladies, and men, have gone from zero to well trained with a standard service weapon, in the military, law enforcement and other agencies.
The FBI used to use revolvers and part of the entry test was to squeeze off 50 DA cycles on an S&W M13 3", the service weapon at the time, many women could not do this-and a class action suit followed along with conversion to autopistols. Those ladies have no troubles with the current issue Glocks.
To my knowledge, no frontline agency issues a revolver anymore, and there are a lot of good reasons for this.
The FBI used to use revolvers and part of the entry test was to squeeze off 50 DA cycles on an S&W M13 3", the service weapon at the time, many women could not do this-and a class action suit followed along with conversion to autopistols. Those ladies have no troubles with the current issue Glocks.
To my knowledge, no frontline agency issues a revolver anymore, and there are a lot of good reasons for this.
09-28-2011, 04:10 PM
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My wife carries the Smith & Wesson 442 (.38 special). It's relatively inexpensive, reliable, easy to conceal, and has a grip she likes. It also has a user-friendly point and click interface which is beneficial in times of stress. As with any potential gun purchase, make sure you shoot it before you buy it.
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09-28-2011, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mswmsw
Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
Very true, Jungle. But that is why I prefaced my post with the proviso "Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery....." One would at least hope that those engaged in military or LE work would fall under that description - serious student of handgunnery - (though I can tell you from first hand experience that it is not as true today as it might have been a generation ago) and will therefore hopefully get decent initial and recurrent handgun weapons training. I also have no doubt that a civilian who is - or is willing to become - a serious handgun shooter (through diligent effort and practice), can also handle a modern semi-auto pistol. My comments were primarily directed at those who are not similarly motivated, and want a handgun just for occasional plinking, and/or "lightweight" home defense, and will otherwise relegate it to (hopefully) a safe or locked container.
Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery, your first gun (especially if your first gun is a handgun), should probably be a revolver. In years past, I taught a lot of "Beginning Pistol" classes to both law enforcement officer recruits/cadets, and civilians...... and this opinion is based on what I personally saw and experienced when I used to do a lot of firearms training. In fact, my recommendation for a first handgun purchase has always been - and still is - a good quality .22LR revolver.
Very true, Jungle. But that is why I prefaced my post with the proviso "Unless you intend to be a serious student of handgunnery....." One would at least hope that those engaged in military or LE work would fall under that description - serious student of handgunnery - (though I can tell you from first hand experience that it is not as true today as it might have been a generation ago) and will therefore hopefully get decent initial and recurrent handgun weapons training. I also have no doubt that a civilian who is - or is willing to become - a serious handgun shooter (through diligent effort and practice), can also handle a modern semi-auto pistol. My comments were primarily directed at those who are not similarly motivated, and want a handgun just for occasional plinking, and/or "lightweight" home defense, and will otherwise relegate it to (hopefully) a safe or locked container.
Again, training is the most important part of the equation.
Just as owning an aircraft does not make you a pilot, owning a weapon does not make you capable of using it in the correct manner.
Everyone should be very aware of the legal implications as well as the needed and fairly simple skills involved. It isn't rocket science or brain surgery, but it does take some effort.
Last edited by jungle; 09-28-2011 at 04:45 PM.
09-28-2011, 04:43 PM
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Massad Ayoob says the best home defense handgun is actually a sawed-off shotgun. Be that as it may, his own weapon of choice is a Beretta 9mm with an 18-round clip. When I took my handgun course a few years ago the instructor said if someone breaks into your house, first fire a round straight up, and then kill the intruder. It took me a minute to figure out what he meant. The first round is a purely legal thing.
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